Fredo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Hi, does anyone know where we can research the liveries of the Class 48 locos to find out when they received full yellow ends rather than a small panel. Thanks Fred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Fredo said: Hi, does anyone know where we can research the liveries of the Class 48 locos to find out when they received full yellow ends rather than a small panel. Thanks Fred Here's a decent starting point. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_liveries.php?s_type=1&s_liv=4 Also Russ Saxton has published these details previously, I believe it was in one of the mainstream periodicals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 If they want numbers just do a model of 48002 with high intensity light fitted in Load Haul.... job done. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted October 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2020 I'm hoping that Ben Jones is reading the comments on here and that he decides to launch at a later date 47901 in blue and railfreight triple grey. I'm sure it would be a sure fire winner, I'd have one of each. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted October 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 11:17, Fredo said: Hi, does anyone know where we can research the liveries of the Class 48 locos to find out when they received full yellow ends rather than a small panel. Thanks Fred I think you'll find that they all were in two tone green and full yellow ends at the time of conversion to a 47. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 12/09/2020 at 17:59, fezza said: Yes but you've still got to sell it. Yes I know what a 48 is - the fact that many railfans won't is the problem. Depends on your age - they were mostly green weren't they with a different engine - that's it - nothing too inspiring to warrant a special run. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted October 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 13:03, The Black Hat said: If they want numbers just do a model of 48002 with high intensity light fitted in Load Haul.... job done. i might get one and paint it blue. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 11:17, Fredo said: Hi, does anyone know where we can research the liveries of the Class 48 locos to find out when they received full yellow ends rather than a small panel. Thanks Fred From class 47 datafile part 6 D1702 Green full yellow ends 8/68 blue 12/69 D1703 green full yellow ends 3/68 blue 11/70 D1704 green full yellow ends 11/67 Blue 6/71 D1705 green full yellow ends 7/68 Blue 4/71 D1706 green full yellow ends 7/68 Blue 11/70 None of them carried blue when in class 48 configuration so the blue dates are when they were released following conversion to a standard 47. Hope this helps 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, PM47079 said: From class 47 datafile part 6 D1702 Green full yellow ends 8/68 blue 12/69 D1703 green full yellow ends 3/68 blue 11/70 D1704 green full yellow ends 11/67 Blue 6/71 D1705 green full yellow ends 7/68 Blue 4/71 D1706 green full yellow ends 7/68 Blue 11/70 None of them carried blue when in class 48 configuration so the blue dates are when they were released following conversion to a standard 47. Hope this helps Thanks very much for taking the trouble Much appreciated 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Deleted. Edited October 12, 2020 by adb968008 was trying to be informative bit was mis interpreted, so deleted the content. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 hours ago, adb968008 said: On yesterdays GETS web cast, Ben said they’d tooled 9 different cabs... I can think of at least 29 excluding class 57’s As built, headcodes As built, headcodes And headlight (preservation) marker lights marker lights with headlight marker lights with headlight & jumper (90’s) Lens lights Lenses with headlights Lenses with headlights & jumper (90’s) marker lights with car style headlight (Scottish) Lenses with car style headlights (scottish) marker lights with headlight (Scottish) & pushpull tdm Lenses with headlights (scottish) & pushpull tdm marker lights with car style headlight (Scottish) & push pull tdm Lenses with car style headlights (scottish) & pushpull tdm marker lights with headlight (Res) & pushpull tdm Lenses with headlights (Res) & pushpull tdm rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & RES (push pull) plated Lenses with headlights (47831 + others) rebuilt post accident cab With headlights rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & jumper rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & tdm (push pull) cut cab with headlights cut cab with headlights & jumper box 47601 style headlight Cuban (exported) 47375 (exported) 47798 Lenses with headlights 1 jumper 47798/9 marker lights with headlights 1 jumper 47799 rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & 1 jumper) So not everyone will be excited. I can't see rebuilt post accident cab without headlights, e.g. as per 47282 and 47484 both still with dominoes the other end. I'd be happy with nine variants, as long as they were all up to BR Blue/LL not later :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 47053 style rebuilt cab with opaque marker lights with black grommets 47825 with twin headlights DRS extra multi socket 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
61661 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, adb968008 said: On yesterdays GETS web cast, Ben said they’d tooled 9 different cabs... I can think of at least 29 excluding class 57’s As built, headcodes As built, headcodes And headlight (preservation) marker lights marker lights with headlight marker lights with headlight & jumper (90’s) Lens lights Lenses with headlights Lenses with headlights & jumper (90’s) marker lights with car style headlight (Scottish) Lenses with car style headlights (scottish) marker lights with headlight (Scottish) & pushpull tdm Lenses with headlights (scottish) & pushpull tdm marker lights with car style headlight (Scottish) & push pull tdm Lenses with car style headlights (scottish) & pushpull tdm marker lights with headlight (Res) & pushpull tdm Lenses with headlights (Res) & pushpull tdm rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & RES (push pull) plated Lenses with headlights (47831 + others) rebuilt post accident cab With headlights rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & jumper rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & tdm (push pull) cut cab with headlights cut cab with headlights & jumper box 47601 style headlight Cuban (exported) 47375 (exported) 47798 Lenses with headlights 1 jumper 47798/9 marker lights with headlights 1 jumper 47799 rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & 1 jumper) So not everyone will be excited. Remember that some of the parts mentioned above (MW jumpers, headcode inserts, for example) will be separate within the cab ends, which expands the number of ends possible. And we haven’t even touched the Scottish 47/7s yet. Also, some of these are ad hoc mods where we couldn’t justify the cost of tooling to include them, especially where they are specific to one loco. And if you’re counting preservation, the Cuban locos and individual exported locos you are really scraping the barrel! I think it shows how far we’ve come with regard to making provision for a huge range of detail variations on new models that this 47/48 will cover more differences than any previous RTR model and it’s still not enough! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, adb968008 said: On yesterdays GETS web cast, Ben said they’d tooled 9 different cabs... I can think of at least 29 excluding class 57’s As built, headcodes As built, headcodes And headlight (preservation) marker lights marker lights with headlight marker lights with headlight & jumper (90’s) Lens lights Lenses with headlights Lenses with headlights & jumper (90’s) marker lights with car style headlight (Scottish) Lenses with car style headlights (scottish) marker lights with headlight (Scottish) & pushpull tdm Lenses with headlights (scottish) & pushpull tdm marker lights with car style headlight (Scottish) & push pull tdm Lenses with car style headlights (scottish) & pushpull tdm marker lights with headlight (Res) & pushpull tdm Lenses with headlights (Res) & pushpull tdm rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & RES (push pull) plated Lenses with headlights (47831 + others) rebuilt post accident cab With headlights rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & jumper rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & tdm (push pull) cut cab with headlights cut cab with headlights & jumper box 47601 style headlight Cuban (exported) 47375 (exported) 47798 Lenses with headlights 1 jumper 47798/9 marker lights with headlights 1 jumper 47799 rebuilt post accident cab With headlights & 1 jumper) So not everyone will be excited. Think your level of expectation may be rather high, nobody can reasonably expect all that to be covered. Anyhow, shouldn’t this be in the 47 thread? Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) My post seems to have been misinterpreted as a criticsm, it certainly is not. i’m certainly not expecting 29 class 47 variants.. I do live in the real world. I was merely pointing out how difficult it could be with so many variations. ive actually never seen the list detailed before and thought i’d compile it as an idea. as its in the wrong place i’ll delete it and partake no further. I hope the detractors are stamped on harder than supporters. Edited October 12, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, adb968008 said: My post seems to have been misinterpreted as a criticsm, it certainly is not. i’m certainly not expecting 29 class 47 variants.. I do live in the real world. I was merely pointing out how difficult it could be with so many variations. ive actually never seen the list detailed before and thought i’d compile it as an idea. as its in the wrong place i’ll delete it and partake no further. I hope the detractors are stamped on harder than supporters. In that light, the list was interesting, can't you just recreate it in the Class 47 thread? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: In that light, the list was interesting, can't you just recreate it in the Class 47 thread? Roy to be criticised there too ? No. Edited October 12, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, adb968008 said: to be criticised there too ? No. If I misinterpreted the point of your post, I apologise. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) I’m looking forward to their arrival and hopefully there will be high praise for them. As I model the present day, I hope some West Coast Class 47/7 and 47/8 appear eventually. If they do, I’ll be a happy camper Edited October 12, 2020 by jools1959 Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2020 It seems to have gone quiet regarding the Class 48, has there been any updates or progress? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 The Class 48 was given the green light and is being developed as part of Heljan's Class 47 project. (CJL) 4 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Just sound chipped my home made D1702 with a Kestrel chip from Roads &Rails. I started it just before the Model Rail announcement came out. It still needs final chassis weathering but the ongoing lockdown since November had curtailed my visits to the layout. Looking forward to seeing how mine compares to the Heljan one. Cheers. James Edited January 31, 2021 by jessy1692 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Very nice modelling, but no, thank goodness they stuck with the Sulzer engines in the 47s, I do not like that engine sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 31 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Very nice modelling, but no, thank goodness they stuck with the Sulzer engines in the 47s, I do not like that engine sound. Cheers Woodenhead, it certainly is a different sound but listening to clips of the French 68000's they are very different to the LDA 47s. Filming it on a phone probably doesn't do it justice either. Cheers James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted February 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) On 31/01/2021 at 12:24, jessy1692 said: Cheers Woodenhead, it certainly is a different sound but listening to clips of the French 68000's they are very different to the LDA 47s. Filming it on a phone probably doesn't do it justice either. Cheers Not all the 68000 series were sulzer some had ago engines, there is a free sound project on the esu website which is apparently a sulzer one. Edited February 11, 2021 by pheaton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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