Railman158 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Hi all I have question I've recently purchased a Heljan Class 33 (33029) which comes as weathered Would it be possible to de-weather this as I believe it's somewhat over weathered being a charter loco and going on prototypical images on-line I'd like to remove/ reduce the body side grime effect and front end grime effects without affecting the maroon paintwork? Thanks in advance Kev Miller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I have successfully removed Bachmann factory weathering with Tcut, never tried on Heljan though 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Some people have very peculiar ideas about what constitutes 'weathering'. Then they try to sell the results on eBay! 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted August 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2020 I think that you have two options for removing what you don't want to be there. Both if them involve an element of risk, because you may take off too much and end up affecting the maroon paint. Much care needs to be exercised. One option is to use isopropyl alcohol and the other is to use T-Cut, and both materials can be applied with soft cloth or cotton swabs/buds. Using very small amounts at a time, work in small areas so that you can better control your progress. Apply your chosen material using a small area of the applicator and work in small circular motions. Work slowly and carefully and you will see the unwanted colour coming away on the applicator. Both methods will result in a shiny surface, but that can be rectified using a matt varnish once you have finished. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railman158 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Thanks all for replying I've experienced using T cut before in removing unwanted factory transfers Appreciate the detailed info so thanks for that will give it a go! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Southwark Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Enamel thinners can remove factory weathering as I did when redoing the rubbish Heljan weathering on 33 012 a before and after Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railman158 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Ok seems to have done the trick Thanks for your info I'll give it a go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Heljan locos are particularly stubborn when it comes to removing the weathering. I have a feeling they spray over the weathering with varnish. T-Cut has worked for me on my own models and clients. This was a client's Heljan Class 28 Co-Bo which had been factory weathered. T-Cut brought up a nice sheen on the body work, then I worked my own weathering on to the model. Edited August 10, 2020 by Hawin Dooiey 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hawin Dooiey said: Heljan locos are particularly stubborn when it comes to removing the weathering. I have a feeling they spray over the weathering with varnish. T-Cut has worked for me on my own models and clients. This was a client's Heljan Class 28 Co-Bo which had been factory weathered. T-Cut brought up a nice sheen on the body work, then I worked my own weathering on to the model. Have to agree in that I’m sure they varnish over which is also one of the reasons they are a pain to renumber as you have to get through the varnish. Nice job on the CoBo! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Squirrel Rail said: Have to agree in that I’m sure they varnish over which is also one of the reasons they are a pain to renumber as you have to get through the varnish. Nice job on the CoBo! Cheers! Yes, sadly I think Bachmann have also followed suit. Previously Bachmann weathering came off easy with Microsol. I'm just working on a client's 4F and I have had to resort to T-Cut to get through the weathering, just to renumber. Even then the weathering was incredibly stubborn to remove! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I used blue T Cut on this weathered Hornby 31to take back the weathered finish. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, GRUNFOS said: I used blue T Cut on this weathered Hornby 31to take back the weathered finish. Very nicely done- T Cut can be an absolute swine to get out of all the grills ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Following through the thread and the use of enamel thinners or T-Cut I used white spirit and cotton buds and a soft cloth on this 27 which had been, ahem "pro weathered". Couple of before and afters before a re-number and re-weather and back to it's owner. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted September 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Don't try using ipa or thinners on older locos..particularly Hornby ones as the lining can disappeare..especially on A4s... Baz Edited September 11, 2020 by Barry O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 20:38, Squirrel Rail said: Very nicely done- T Cut can be an absolute swine to get out of all the grills ! That 's why I found it easier to use blue T-cut, the first one I did I used white and as you say, what a pain to completely remove. The blue is almost the same as BR blue. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Neat idea - I forgot the different colour T -cut! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 20:38, Squirrel Rail said: Very nicely done- T Cut can be an absolute swine to get out of all the grills ! An old toothbrush does the job very well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 You can also use air duster that can blow it out the books and crannies. One of the bargain shops was doing it for a £1 a can. Like with anything modelling there’s lots of ways to crack a problem but even better if you can avoid it in the 1st place! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railman158 Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Nice looking work on the Class 27 Squirel Rail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railman158 Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Thanks Mick and all for your input on this thread although largely successful in removal I will admit to lacking in experience but practise makes perfect as they say! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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