John76 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I was in the NRM yesterday and noticed that 26020 has been moved. When I looked a bit closer, the pantographs were both down. Then I saw this...... A damaged pantograph. I can only assume it happened while they were moving it. Does anyone else else know what happened to it? John 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ramrig Posted December 3, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2020 Was just the one end/pantograph damaged? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam88 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 They've even managed to lose a few full size locomotives recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 03/12/2020 at 17:24, Adam88 said: They've even managed to lose a few full size locomotives recently. Nothing new there sadly. More and more space sacrificed to seating / coffee shop etc. Personally If I wanted a coffee I would go to a coffee shop. I want to see exhibits and locos at the NRM not folks having coffees. Appreciate the dynamics of economics though frustrated it is becoming less about floor space for locos etc and more about selling coffees. Commercialism! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted February 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 03/12/2020 at 17:24, Adam88 said: They've even managed to lose a few full size locomotives recently. That reminds me of a story of signalman who managed to lose a full size class 31 many moons ago. The rub to the story was the engine that was sent out to locate the loco was the same one that he lost. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Or the time, with all the wonderful electronic communications, that RRNE sent a memo round in the 90s looking for a 142 it had lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 07/08/2020 at 23:43, John76 said: I was in the NRM yesterday and noticed that 26020 has been moved. When I looked a bit closer, the pantographs were both down. Then I saw this...... A damaged pantograph. I can only assume it happened while they were moving it. Does anyone else else know what happened to it? John Hi John, The whole place is run by academics, QED. Gibbo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 The damage is not recent, I noticed the damage 5 years ago, i do not know the cause, perhaps we can review historic images of 26020 since post-withdrawal restoration at Doncaster for a clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 On 21/02/2021 at 23:16, Opelsi said: Nothing new there sadly. More and more space sacrificed to seating / coffee shop etc. Personally If I wanted a coffee I would go to a coffee shop. I want to see exhibits and locos at the NRM not folks having coffees. Appreciate the dynamics of economics though frustrated it is becoming less about floor space for locos etc and more about selling coffees. Commercialism! The NRM have to be almost self sufficient. It needs the income from the Commercial sections. |It doesn't rally los that much space and remember that most of the visitors are not enthusiasts, they are ordinary punters and may are families with kids that get bored after a short time. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Mallard60022 said: The NRM have to be almost self sufficient. It needs the income from the Commercial sections. |It doesn't rally los that much space and remember that most of the visitors are not enthusiasts, they are ordinary punters and may are families with kids that get bored after a short time. P The plan of the previous director, as presented at an AGM of the Friends of NRM, appeared to have removed virtually all rolling stock, Locos etc from the main hall to make a space to explain railways. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) On 21/02/2021 at 23:16, Opelsi said: Nothing new there sadly. More and more space sacrificed to seating / coffee shop etc. Personally If I wanted a coffee I would go to a coffee shop. I want to see exhibits and locos at the NRM not folks having coffees. Appreciate the dynamics of economics though frustrated it is becoming less about floor space for locos etc and more about selling coffees. Commercialism! Please don't get me going on my views of the London Transport Museum and its policy of selling admission tickets as annual passes, which in my view encourages local families with young children to use it as a playground with attached coffee and gift shops. This is based on my experiences in 2016. I would like to think that it has improved since then. Edited May 28, 2021 by phil_sutters Blurred out child's face for privacy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Most museums have to be run on a commercial basis and cafes etc are were large profits can be made. It's a matter of striking the correct balance between commercial facilities and the museum features. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: Most museums have to be run on a commercial basis and cafes etc are were large profits can be made. It's a matter of striking the correct balance between commercial facilities and the museum features. Well, I have been known to visit Morrisons just for a breakfast not shopping, so a similar scenario? Mike. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 13 hours ago, phil_sutters said: Please don't get me going on my views of the London Transport Museum and its policy of selling admission tickets as annual passes, which in my view encourages families with young children to use it as a playground with attached coffee and gift shops. This is based on my experiences in 2016. I would like to think that it has improved since then. It was a lot better when I visited in early March 2020. In fact, most of the London museums I visited that weekend were nice and empty.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted May 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, pete_mcfarlane said: It was a lot better when I visited in early March 2020. In fact, most of the London museums I visited that weekend were nice and empty.... Maybe the use of annual passes and similar offers will be reduced in order to keep control of numbers, at least for a year or two. Back in 2016 I think that pass holders were fast-tracked in, while new visitors had to queue. We waited for about 25 minutes. It was a half-term, but when else were two school-aged children going to be able to visit? The queue seemed to be caused by processing ticket sales rather than capacity issues. I don't know whether there was a limit on numbers in the museum, but it just seemed packed. As one can see from my photos there were masses of under-fives in buggies, out of buggies and walking, some with older children but many without. The museum didn't then have any obvious way to register one's views on the 'visitor experience'. Edited May 28, 2021 by phil_sutters 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted May 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2021 Heaven forbid young children should be encouraged to take some enjoyment from spending time around railway equipment! Many visitor attractions have a ticketing system where you pay once and can return anytime in the next 12 months for free. The Black Country Living Museum is one I can think of that I've visited recently. The vast majority of these will make more from cafe and shop sales to parents than they ever will selling tickets to enthusiasts. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted May 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) On 28/05/2021 at 15:44, Steven B said: Heaven forbid young children should be encouraged to take some enjoyment from spending time around railway equipment! Many visitor attractions have a ticketing system where you pay once and can return anytime in the next 12 months for free. The Black Country Living Museum is one I can think of that I've visited recently. The vast majority of these will make more from cafe and shop sales to parents than they ever will selling tickets to enthusiasts. Steven B. The problem was that my two grandchildren, who were of an age to learn from the exhibits could not do that as they were constantly having to dodge smaller children just running around and queue while toddlers were playing in the exhibits which were open to view. The Black Country Living Museum and other attractions like The Historic Dockyard, Portsmouth, have plenty of room to move around around. Exhibits with more adult appeal, like the Mary Rose gallery are carefully stewarded. I was very happy to take advantage of the year-long access to Portsmouth and returned several times with the very same children, visiting a couple of the main attractions each time. With Southern's £2 flat child fare and a pensioner's railcard, return visits from East Sussex came in at well under twenty quid a day, plus ice-creams and a fish and chip supper, looking out at HMS Warrior. The London Transport Museum is a confined space, but did not then seem to control the numbers. Doubtless now it will have to. I am very happy to encourage young children to appreciate our transport history (see below), but I still maintain that in this inner city location it was being used as a free play area, once the initial admission had been paid. Edited May 29, 2021 by phil_sutters 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 On 28/05/2021 at 12:08, Enterprisingwestern said: Well, I have been known to visit Morrisons just for a breakfast not shopping, so a similar scenario? Mike. I would shop there if they had some locos on display. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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