RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2021 HYA DECORATED SAMPLES AND UPDATE! The good news keeps rolling here at Accurascale with yet another project update. Today it's the turn of the most modern wagon in our "Powering Britain" series of wagons; the HYA coal hopper wagon. Tweaks in printing and colours are required but overall it is shaping up quite well. Delivery is slated for Q2 2021 and they are available to pre-order now via your local stockist or direct with us! We will have an update on the IIA Biomass variant tomorrow, but in the meantime check out the HYA update and more see more images here: https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/hya-decorated-samples-and-update-march-2021 Cheers! Fran 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 @Accurascale Fran I think the effect of the discoloration where the welds are is probably as good as can be done on a OO wagon! Although on here they look more red than they do in the pics on your website for some reason, and I personally think the website pics look better. Crude screenshot below! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2021 Very odd, as they're the same pictures @TomScrut . As we said in the update colours are being tweaked, with welding lines being an area we are looking at. However, they're quite vivid on the real things too when pristine. Cheers! Fran 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: However, they're quite vivid on the real things too when pristine. Yes, I think the lines look fine for pristine as you said I just wasn't sure which was the colour! This is a good example of how a factory "weathered" version for current day users would be helpful (I normally stay away as I like the clean look). I say that as weathering in most people's eyes is making something look dirty (it would seem) whereas that's a different thing altogether to representing how the material has discoloured with age. You could get one of these wagons now and get it spotless and it wouldn't look as new. Most things (being painted) would look as new without redefining how the item is finished. I think it would be difficult to weather these to get the effect of the metal discolouration without making a mess of the printing. Edited February 15, 2021 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Hi Fran, Just read the email with this update. I think it looks excellent in the photos and certainly captures the prototype well. I was interested to see how the weld lines would look on a model but I think you’ve achieved a realistic appearance and they look perfect to be able to weather up to suit. I’ve gone for a nice mix to form a 20 wagon rake after watching several YouTube videos at Carlisle for the time frame I want to model and these are certainly going to be impressive. All the best Mark 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman1 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I want to use these on stone trains on our club layout. I know that a number have been cut down for use on stone trains. However, are there unmodified wagons also used on stone traffic? This was taken at Peak Forest in 2019 and looks to me like an unmodified wagon. Any help much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, mevaman1 said: looks to me like an unmodified wagon. Correct. The shortys are noticeably shorter and only have two unloading bay thingys underneath I think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, mevaman1 said: I want to use these on stone trains on our club layout. I know that a number have been cut down for use on stone trains. However, are there unmodified wagons also used on stone traffic? This was taken at Peak Forest in 2019 and looks to me like an unmodified wagon. Any help much appreciated. Unaltered wagons are still in use on stone, but getting less by the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted February 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, mevaman1 said: I want to use these on stone trains on our club layout. I know that a number have been cut down for use on stone trains. However, are there unmodified wagons also used on stone traffic? This was taken at Peak Forest in 2019 and looks to me like an unmodified wagon. Any help much appreciated. Plenty of livery variations in the same stone train.... which also included a single 'shorty' in the middle. Cheers, Phil. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman1 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Thanks everyone for the confirmation. These’ll look good on the layout. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman1 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, mevaman1 said: I want to use these on stone trains on our club layout. I know that a number have been cut down for use on stone trains. However, are there unmodified wagons also used on stone traffic? This was taken at Peak Forest in 2019 and looks to me like an unmodified wagon. Any help much appreciated. Just spotted that this wagon is coded IIA whereas there were also HYAs in the rake. Edited February 15, 2021 by mevaman1 Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, mevaman1 said: Just spotted that this wagon is coded IIA whereas there were also HYAs in the rake. I believe HYA and IIA are the same. HYA carried 6 figure "TOPS" numbers, whilst IIA have the 11+1 digit RIV number. I think there's more detail on the A/S website Edited February 16, 2021 by newbryford 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2021 The first few batches of wagons we had at fast line were branded HYA then the final few batches came as IIA, about the same time the GE logos appeared on the sides iirc 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purnu Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I notice that Rails are now advertising the DRS branded version as an Exclusive in a ‘Small Production Run’. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 15/02/2021 at 23:52, newbryford said: I believe HYA and IIA are the same. HYA carried 6 figure "TOPS" numbers, whilst IIA have the 11+1 digit RIV number. I think there's more detail on the A/S website some HYAs also have the RIV number Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just seen this on the Rails site.... ACC260xDRS1 HYA Bogie Hopper Wagon Direct Rail Services DRS Twin Pack (OO Gauge) by Accurascale - Rails Limited Apologies if its already been posted elsewhere, did do a quick search. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Please don't crucify me for asking but will these have rotating axle boxes as per prototype? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, classy52 said: Please don't crucify me for asking but will these have rotating axle boxes as per prototype? Hopefully not, LOL !!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, martin_l_jones said: Hopefully not, LOL !!! Well they actually pulled it off with their Class 121 loco under Irish Model Railways/Murphy Models thus can't see why AS can't do this with a wagon, was just asking the question considering the lengths they go to with detail on their products which are outstanding but if not in this case then that is also ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, classy52 said: Please don't crucify me for asking but will these have rotating axle boxes as per prototype? See posts 4/5 on page 1........ Just below and above a couple of your posts..... Edited March 21, 2021 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, newbryford said: See posts 4/5 on page 1........ Just below and above a couple of your posts..... That settles it then with an ! Can imagine their boardroom meeting discussing the detail and Fran pounding the desk with his fist saying no no no no no!!!!!...someone else pipes up with, but Fran we did it on the Class 121 without any problems...then Fran's death stare whilst uttering the words, you get out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 22, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2021 11 hours ago, classy52 said: That settles it then with an ! Can imagine their boardroom meeting discussing the detail and Fran pounding the desk with his fist saying no no no no no!!!!!...someone else pipes up with, but Fran we did it on the Class 121 without any problems...then Fran's death stare whilst uttering the words, you get out! Just for sake of clarity, the 121 Class is made by Murphy Models, who is a different company to us. (You're right about my Malcolm Tucker traits though sadly!) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Just for sake of clarity, the 121 Class is made by Murphy Models, who is a different company to us. (You're right about my Malcolm Tucker traits though sadly!) Apologies Fran I thought Murphy Models came under the same umbrella as I had seen Irish Railway Models in there somewhere when the product was advertised...I'm so confused 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 12 hours ago, classy52 said: Fran's death stare whilst uttering the words, you get out! You live and learn. I always thought Fran was the very essence of affability. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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