Chinley crash of September 1978

[18B]

 

In September 1978  40044 was hauling a freight train that ran away and was derailed at trap points at Chinley, Derbyshire. The loco was repaired and was identifiable by the lack of corridor connecting doors.

 

Where exactly was this derailment and would anyone happen to know the circumstances of this incident at Chinley? TIA

[iands]

Have you tried looking on The Railways Archive website? 

[Compound2632]

37 minutes ago, iands said:

Have you tried looking on The Railways Archive website? 

 

No entry there for this incident. If the derailment didn't involve a passenger train and there were no fatalities or major injuries to staff, would it at this date have been subject to a full HMRI investigation?

[beast66606]

1 hour ago, 18B said:

 

In September 1978  40044 was hauling a freight train that ran away and was derailed at trap points at Chinley, Derbyshire. The loco was repaired and was identifiable by the lack of corridor connecting doors.

 

Where exactly was this derailment and would anyone happen to know the circumstances of this incident at Chinley? TIA

 

Location

 

https://twitter.com/ChrisSignore1/status/1015644277337030656/photo/1

[iands]

3 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

No entry there for this incident. If the derailment didn't involve a passenger train and there were no fatalities or major injuries to staff, would it at this date have been subject to a full HMRI investigation?

Sorry, I didn't check The Railways Archive before I posted - thanks for checking.

[pharrc20]

40044 was hauling a loaded rake of MSV tippler wagons loaded with aggregates most likely from Peak Forest. Not sure if the train was booked or deliberately routed onto the Down Slow from Chinley North Jn. - so that west of Chinley station it could be diverted to run and derail on the remains of the Down Slow towards New Mills South Jn. - the four-track section between Chinley Station and New Mills South Jn. had by then been reduced to two-tracks. The rail cranes are standing on the former Up Slow line in the photos in the twitter link.

Cheers Paul

[18B]

It seems that the trains was the Peak Forest - Downham Market wiuld have meant that it was put on the goods in order to run around its train. not sure why it ran away however, but the train would have ran away through the pointwork acting as trap points to the mainlines thus doing their job

 

 

[keefer]

Class 40 40044 - Reddish Depot. by Martyn Hilbert, on Flickr

 

I'd assumed that the whole train had 'run away' but on seeing the Twitter post & others, it was just the loco?

In that case, the loco could've been parked with the handbrake on and still run away. There was an instruction in General/Sectional Appendix stating that parked cl.40s must be scotched as the handbrake could not be relied upon to hold the loco.

 

 

[18B]

7 minutes ago, keefer said:

Class 40 40044 - Reddish Depot. by Martyn Hilbert, on Flickr

 

I'd assumed that the whole train had 'run away' but on seeing the Twitter post & others, it was just the loco?

In that case, the loco could've been parked with the handbrake on and still run away. There was an instruction in General/Sectional Appendix stating that parked cl.40s must be scotched as the handbrake could not be relied upon to hold the loco.

 

 

 

The loco wasn't "parked", it was in the process of running around it's train, seen here is the loco and several derailed wagons, it seems to have travelled some distance along the former Goods line.

 

https://railphotoprints.uk/p692212777/hC0697201