t.s.meese Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) I'm looking for an etch for 4mm DCI brake gear, including the swan neck lever. I see that Bill Bedford used to do one, but I've only been able to locate the DCIII version (at Eileen's Emporium). No sign of DCI components on the web. Am I missing something? Thanks, Tim. Edited August 24, 2020 by t.s.meese typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Might be out of stock. They've got the 7mm version still. Might be worth sending them an email to see if they are getting more in. https://www.eileensemporium.com/materials-for-modellers/product/gwr-dc1-brake-gear-9-0-7mm/category_pathway-1289 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Asked the question of Eileens a couple of months ago. 4mm version no longer produced for "technical reasons" of unstated nature. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.s.meese Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, mike morley said: Asked the question of Eileens a couple of months ago. 4mm version no longer produced for "technical reasons" of unstated nature. Thanks for the update - I wondered if that might be so! And I'm guessing that nobody but Bedford did one, yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 A couple of months ago I found a very nicely cast but rather delicate whitemetal one lurking in the bottom of my gloat box. I don't remember buying it and can only guess it came from ABS, so as difficult to acquire now as the Bill Bedford etched version. I'm afraid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I had a cast set from Dart. But they don't seem to do them anymore either. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted August 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2020 Is there anything in the Mainly Trains range through Wizard? https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/product-category/locomotive/?filter_2_railway_company=gwr-great-western-railway&filter_3_manufacturer=mainly_trains Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Psst. That's locos. He sells the Bedford DCIII etch and this. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/wagons/mt236/ I think the main thing people are looking for is the "swan necks" as the Coopercraft kits didn't have them for some strange reason and they are pretty prominent. http://www.gwr.org.uk/nowagonbrakes.html Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted August 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Psst. That's locos. He sells the Bedford DCIII etch and this. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/wagons/mt236/ I think the main thing people are looking for is the "swan necks" as the Coopercraft kits didn't have them for some strange reason and they are pretty prominent. http://www.gwr.org.uk/nowagonbrakes.html Jason Ha ha sorry I just assumed (wrongly) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted August 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2020 The 9ft Morgan designed DC1 underframes are currently out of stock. Only available to members or at S4 shows, when they are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted August 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, mike morley said: Asked the question of Eileens a couple of months ago. 4mm version no longer produced for "technical reasons" of unstated nature. There was discussion on this not so long ago. The "technical reason" is that the etch is dimensionally incorrect - as @Mikkel discovered. As an 00 bodger, I've faked the DC1 gear: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.s.meese Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Thanks for contributions - but looks like no banana... Perhaps I can craft one from thin plastic sheet. But it's not just the swan-neck but that cog-work by the DC lever as well. Hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.s.meese Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 For the record - I bodged it using an etched brake lever (positioned from the V-hanger then behind the W-iron, as for the swan-neck), half a brake wheel and a bit of brass linkage, all cut and bent to length. I did this without looking at photo sources (which I have) so as not to upset myself too much. The end result looks passable, in the sense that the little people now have a way of apply the brake. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Masokits did an etch for the DCI brakes. Unfortunately the GWR brake etches are no longer listed https://traders.scalefour.org/masokits/ It may be worth asking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted August 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2020 17 hours ago, t.s.meese said: Thanks for contributions - but looks like no banana... I'm not convinced by the description of the big lever as "swan-necked" - I am open to the idea that it's more banana-shaped! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I fudged one* by omitting the part behind the W-iron where it isn't very obvious. 'One day' I'll do it properly! *A Kirk kit (a 4 plank open wagon IIRC) which shows how long ago! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flymo749 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Excuse the cross-post, as the question of GWR DC1 brakes in 4mm has popped up on two different RMWeb threads in close succession. In talking about the DC1 set up, and the swan-neck lever in particular, I believe that this is what is intended: The w-irons are from the Scalefour Society, the brake vee is a spare D&S one, and the brake gear is an old 9ft casting - ABS I think. The nickel silver operating mechanism is an etch that I drew up at the start of lockdown, based on GWR General Arrangement drawings: I had a few etched when business at the etchers that I use resumed, as a test on the edge of something else. Having now built one, I can see that they all work properly. The next step will be to draw up the other parts that I've used from other sources as part of the same artwork, and have it all etched as a single set. A couple more pictures to show how it fits together, starting with those fiddly brake lever handles: During the build process, the swan-neck fitting behind the axleguard: And the full layout of the rods underneath. The centre one is still overlength, as I need to knock up one of the vertical support straps and fix that before I cut it back to length: I'll post more of an update when I've designed and tested the other bits, as I need quite a supply of these for my own modelling of the GWR in 1909. I have quite a number of Coopercraft and Ratio kits for them to go under. Cheers Paul 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2020 Keep us posted! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.s.meese Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 19/10/2020 at 21:11, Flymo749 said: Excuse the cross-post, as the question of GWR DC1 brakes in 4mm has popped up on two different RMWeb threads in close succession. In talking about the DC1 set up, and the swan-neck lever in particular, I believe that this is what is intended: I'll post more of an update when I've designed and tested the other bits, as I need quite a supply of these for my own modelling of the GWR in 1909. I have quite a number of Coopercraft and Ratio kits for them to go under. Cheers Paul Did these ever become available? cheers tim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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