Popular Post apbolton Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 So another day to myself, time I thought to get Monsal Head Viaduct complete, or as much as I can manage in 7 hours, stated the day cleaning up the polystyrene, that stuff gets everywhere, then removed the plaster I had spilled on the pillars, note to self take more care next time. So after nearly 2 hours cleaning, I finally got some modelling done, spent 3 hours glueing the cornerstones on the last 2 piers of the viaduct then an hour filling the joints between the Wills sheets, and ta dah, a complete viaduct, so to celebrate I put a coat of undercoat on the whole thing. As a small side project, done whilst allowing layers of cornerstones to set, I completed the first of 4 buffer stops I require, 2 LMS and 2 Midland, all are the excellent Lanarkshire Models kits, which are a joy to build. So altogether an enjoyable day, not sure when I’ll get the next one, still 3 more buffer stops to keep me amused, in the mean time. 16 2 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Now that is one damn fine looking viaduct you've got there, sir! That's going to be a great stage for some super photos in the (not-too-distant) future... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, LNER4479 said: Now that is one damn fine looking viaduct you've got there, sir! That's going to be a great stage for some super photos in the (not-too-distant) future... I couldn't have put it better myself all it needs is a 2-4-0 double heading a Spinner on a rake of clestories it be my idea of heaven. Regards Lez. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 Some great work on the viaduct, Paul. I have to agree about the Lanarkshire offerings - first class products. Cannot agree with @lezz01 though, it has to be a Compound! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2020 no it needs to be either a Blue Pullman or a Fell swaying its way over the viaduct... Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 LMS Jubilee in as new Crimson Lake, with matching set of stock. Yum 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireValley1962 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 The viaduct does look excellent! But it should be a Britannia with Mk1's on the top...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2020 Hmm seems we all have a different idea of what Midland heaven should look like. Regards Lez. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 That viaduct is superb and clearly needs a Midland Pullman set, and a class 45 with (6-8)maroon mark 1's, maybe even a 25 with some LMS porthole coaches (2-3) . LMR fundamentalists would add a class 28 diesel. Cant wait to see this complete. Well done ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2020 if not the Blue Pullman then.. A Midland Spinner with a full Midland Clerestory rake... I knew I should have kept my Spinner! Baz 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rholgateau Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2020 Hi guys I've just seen this thread and was fascinated to see your interpretation of this iconic location. Very impressed - and also, very depressed, as you have achieved in a couple of years what has taken me some 15 or so years for my Millers Dale layout! Mine is in N gauge, so I have a bit more freedom to include (for example), most of the station trackwork, and more of the buildings in the MD village. But, to go from Chee Tor to Headstone tunnel, I have had to cut out a couple of the quarries, Litton and Cressbrook mills, and Monsal Head station - sad, but something had to go. Scenic work is now well underway (thanks, Covid!), but there's a lot more required on the station area - platform 1 is done, but I'm still trying to get more info on the other two platforms... Anyway, keep it up, and keep posting here, please? Rob 23 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrock Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Hi Paul, I have just started to design my own layout and so wondered if I could ask you some questions re measurements please? I have 16ft by 8.5ft, so not quite as wide as yours, but I’m only going for two scenic runs. Would you be able to confirm (mainlines only) how high off the floor the lowest section of mainline is please, and how highly the highest section is? Also, what is your steepest gradient for the climb between the two heights? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbolton Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Hi Adrock. I will measure up and get back to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbolton Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thought I would post the latest progress, not got that much done over the festive period, hopefully get more done as tier 4 gets underway. Anyway as you can see I have started with the base for the scenery and even managed a bit of ballasting, although it needs a bit more tidying before I glue it down. Got several elements of the scene on the work bench, trees, walls etc so will post more when there done. All best for 2021 to everyone. Paul 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Sorry but that viaduct needs a garrat on a load of wagons on the way back from gowhole to toton. The passenger trains may have been flashy but the goods made the money. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, cheesysmith said: Sorry but that viaduct needs a garrat on a load of wagons on the way back from gowhole to toton. As it happens that would be modelling a one off. An LMS Beyer-Garratt was tried over the Peak, but its brakes weren't really up to it. The Garratts made it to Rowsley sometimes but they reached Gowhole via the Hope Valley line. It was one of those oddities of steam operations north from Rowsley that there was only a small benefit (time etc) having anything bigger than a 4F on northbound freights. All northbound freights required a banker if the load exceeded that for a 4F anyway. I've just checked that information in Keith Miles's Rowsley book and come across a shot of 2P 4-4-0 40520 banking a northbound freight. That would make an interesting talking point! Simon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I read somewhere that the max load was governed by what the brake van and banker could stop from running back if the coupling between loco and first wagon broke. Obviously a major concern where such lusty devices as "Super" (heated) 4F's were on the case so it made no sense for anything larger than a 4F to work north of Rowsley. The LNWR invested in 8 wheeled brake vans to save fitting their engines with brakes that worked and the GWR laughed at little slopes like the Peaks when they had Dainton to contend with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I was just thinking of a photo I saw of a garrat on this route. Cannot remember where I saw it, but they do leave a lasting impression. Also, freights do get a bit under represented on layouts in steam days. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 Iron ore to the north ......up to three 4Fs on the front.. and two 4Fs pushing.. now that would be impressive... Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 hours ago, DavidCBroad said: I read somewhere that the max load was governed by what the brake van and banker could stop from running back if the coupling between loco and first wagon broke. Obviously a major concern where such lusty devices as "Super" (heated) 4F's were on the case so it made no sense for anything larger than a 4F to work north of Rowsley. The LNWR invested in 8 wheeled brake vans to save fitting their engines with brakes that worked and the GWR laughed at little slopes like the Peaks when they had Dainton to contend with. Yes, it was all about what a 20T brake van could safely stop on the ruling gradient of 1 in 90. The undulating nature of either route north from Rowsley making broken couplings more likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Only just discovered this thread. I also remember the old layout at Slaters and have walked the route a couple of times. Thanks for sharing the build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Fantastic project. I look forward to seeing it progress. Shame there won’t be any Spinners and Kirtley 2-4-0s in use.... Incidentally, what happened to the 7mm version at Slaters? Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbolton Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Hi Adrock The lowest part of the mainline is 970mm of the floor and the highest is 1050mm making the difference 80mm for slope of the line through Monsal Head. Hope this helps. Paul 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 And if I can just to add to that re gradients, the plan is based on 1-in-75 max gradient (can't imagine where I got that figure from?) 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrock Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, apbolton said: Hi Adrock The lowest part of the mainline is 970mm of the floor and the highest is 1050mm making the difference 80mm for slope of the line through Monsal Head. Hope this helps. Paul Thanks Paul - yes, this is perfect and a huge help as I start my planning process! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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