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PUNTA BRAVA - RENFE HO - Spanish seaside branch terminus


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7 hours ago, Nick_Burman said:

 

Alcoy, before it was rationalized to near-death? San Juan de las Abadessas? Ayamonte? Muskiz? Vigo? There are a few choices...

 

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Thanks. I made my comment when my knowledge of the RENFE system wasn't as good as it is now. Lesson learnt, never base your assumptions on a Google search. I've been frequenting the Forotrenes forum rather a lot over the past 12 months, and the amount of information on there is quite overwhelming, but definitely informative. I'm still learning though.

 

7 hours ago, Nick_Burman said:

 

Unsurprising, RENFE pulled the plug off the wagonload network about 20 years ago or so. If you want wagonload freight activity you'll have to turn  the clock back to the 1980's or earlier, when there was still such activity.

 

Cheers NB

I suspected as much. The layout will be nominally set during the mid-80's (1985, when I first visited Spain) and the early to mid-90's (my second holiday in Spain, 1994), so hopefully this will just catch the end of the wagonload freight era. I do have a small amount of stock covering Era V/VI, but some of this will be repainted into earlier liveries to match the Era IV, early Era V period.

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This might be of help, even if it's dated 1948. Notice the thin lines denoting projected lines (which were never built) and the white lines which denoted lines under construction (some of which were never finished).

 

 

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Almeria is very interesting... even has an elevated ore dock, the Cable Inglés, like the ones you can see on the American Great Lakes.  

 

Granada also has a nice little terminus.  

 

I had a most excellent holiday in that part of Spain - much more interesting than the coast, although the trudge up the hill to The Alhambra in 45c has gone down in family legend!

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20 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said:

Almeria is very interesting... even has an elevated ore dock, the Cable Inglés, like the ones you can see on the American Great Lakes.  

 

Granada also has a nice little terminus. 

I found Almeria almost by accident on Google Maps, and noticed the ore Dock is still standing, if no longer connected. Having modelled the Great Lakes area before, it certainly caught my eye.

 

I've managed to find quite a few photo's of both Almeria and Granada thanks to our friends on Forotrenes. There's quite a few videos on YouTube as well....

 

4 hours ago, Nick_Burman said:

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That map is very useful.... I was at one point thinking of a line out onto the Ebro delta, and to find not 1 but 2 lines there from Tortosa. One going to El Cava and one to Sant Carles de la Rapita....

 

There is obviously Sant Feliu and Palamós up the coast the other side of Barcelona which I could also use as names too....

 

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18 hours ago, Geep7 said:

That map is very useful.... I was at one point thinking of a line out onto the Ebro delta, and to find not 1 but 2 lines there from Tortosa. One going to El Cava and one to Sant Carles de la Rapita....

 

Tortosa - La Cava was one of the last meter-gauge railways to be built in Spain. The line to San Carles was graded but rails were never laid on it... something which could come handy for freelancing. http://www.docutren.com/HistoriaFerroviaria/Gijon2003/pdf/td7.pdf

 

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18 hours ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said:

the 'Yanqui' hoppers similar to the ones from Westerfield for the YVRR

 

The similarity is no coincidence, they were built by Pressed Steel Car Co. in Pittsburgh - the same builder as the YVRR cars.

 

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So back to the subject of layout names.... i've been pondering over this for the last couple of weeks, and i'd almost settled on calling it Sant Carles de la Rapita, with a made up history, etc. But then I thought about plausability of a station being built there with the level of traffic I was proposing, and it made me think that perhaps they would have routed the main line to Valencia  through Sant Carles and along the coast if it was that busy, so wouldn't be a terminus.

 

So I started looking back up the coast on the Northern side of Barcelona. Both Lloret de Mar and Tossa de Mar (both I have visited) have never had stations, relying on a bus service from Blanes, and Sant Feliu de Guixols had a (proposed?) narrow gauge line from Gerona, but no National network line. So I thought perhaps I could create a made up history of a line deviating just north of Blanes, turning east to serve Lloret, Tossa and then Sant Feliu, with Sant Feliu being the station i'm modelling. However, with the way round my station is facing, this wouldn't make much sense as the fictional line would be coming from the West, and my layout (the way it's supposed to be) has the line entering from the East. Now you could argue that this doesn't really matter as i'm making this up, but I like to get details like the local topography reasonably accurate.

 

Whilst looking at the area between Tossa de Mar and Sant Feliu, I noticed an area that was just a few villas, named Punta Brava, Good Tip in Catalan, or so Google Translate says. I'm assuming it refers to a point or spit of land extending out into the sea. And it got me thinking, it's generic enough that it could apply to anywhere along the coast, not be a specific town that is well known, and vague enough that I can explain away the scenery and run pretty much any sort of Spanish stock I want.

 

So with that in mind, I thought i'd mock up a couple of nameboards, one in the early 90s RENFE style, and one in Cercanias style, just to see how it looks.

 

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Would be interested to know what people think. Choosing a layout name isn't easy, but for this layout I want something that is memorable, definitely looks Spanish (yes I know it's Catalan, but most people will think it's just Spanish) and it's fairly easy to pronounce for those non-Spanish/Catalan speakers among us.

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I have occasionally thought about layout /station names but unlike yourself, have not got round to laying any track so I have still got plenty of time.

 

Thoughts so far include Teruel Norte and Cullera Sud. Mine will be based on an imaginary line in La Communidad de Valencia. 

 

I like the signs.

 

 (Edit: My Valencian wife thinks Punta Brava sounds suitably Catalan.)

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