Dixie Dean Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I just wondered if anyone from Dapol would care to comment as to whether they have given any thought to producing the Class 88/93 in OO gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2020 Why not ask them, rather than on here if it’s a direct question? It’s been discussed at length, but they’re the only ones who know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) I did once ask Joel at Dapol. His thoughts were along the lines of how many would sell, considering there is only 1 livery at present. It wasnt a No, or a Never, but it wasnt a Yes either. My guess is, like any business on any investment, they’d need to be convinced on the numbers, both cost, price and how many will sell, and balance it against the return of any other number of competing project ideas and their potential. Several have acquired class 68 bodies and a hacksaw. Edited September 2, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Dixie Dean said: I just wondered if anyone from Dapol would care to comment as to whether they have given any thought to producing the Class 88/93 in OO gauge. To the best of my knowledge Dapol does not participate on this forum so asking them a question here will result in silence. Best therefore to try emailing them directly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Dixie Dean said: I just wondered if anyone from Dapol would care to comment as to whether they have given any thought to producing the Class 88/93 in OO gauge. Dapol have their own forum and it's best you post there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 3, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2020 Not sure why the Class 93 would even be thought about at the moment. Has an order actually been placed yet? As I understand it, ROGs specification was proving difficult to fit within the UK loading gauge. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Post on the Dapol forum and you may get a reply within 3 months .... not the most interactive of sites I've ever visited. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 This was asked at the Dapol Open Day last year and the response was there is 2 liveries at present (the compass Logo has either Crewe or Carlisle at its centre) to be viable they need a 3rd livery so hopefully that turns up soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ed-farms said: This was asked at the Dapol Open Day last year and the response was there is 2 liveries at present (the compass Logo has either Crewe or Carlisle at its centre) to be viable they need a 3rd livery so hopefully that turns up soon Blimey, that is such a subtle difference it could be argued that there are ten different liveries as they all have different names/numbers! I bet most people wouldn't spot the difference. Roy 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Blimey, that is such a subtle difference it could be argued that there are ten different liveries as they all have different names/numbers! I bet most people wouldn't spot the difference. Roy I bet hardly anyone even knew it...leave alone spot the difference. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2020 Have they already got licence to make 88? Was it bundled with the 68 or can someone else come in and negotiate licence to produce. Dapol made a fine job of the 68, and I bet the 88 would go down well , even in only one livery . If priced at the 68 level I'm sure people would buy multiples if they had different names /numbers but same livery. If they havent got licence this maybe Accurascale territory. Must admit not knowing what a 93 is . Is it even ordered yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2020 I think it’s best to discount the Class 93 as there’s been little if any progress of it being built apart from being in the planning stage. When I spoke to Dapol at Milton Keynes last year, he said that there was no intention of doing the Class 88 unless DRS change the livery on several members of the class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I think it’s best to discount the Class 93 as there’s been little if any progress of it being built apart from being in the planning stage. When I spoke to Dapol at Milton Keynes last year, he said that there was no intention of doing the Class 88 unless DRS change the livery on several members of the class. Not even ordered as I understand it. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said: Not even ordered as I understand it. Roy As you put in your earlier post, there’s lots issues getting a quart to fit into a pint pot. If that’s the case, then the Class 93 could be dead in water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 But the other approach would be to say, do all 10 CL88's, and then people could buy the whole fleet! John P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, jpendle said: But the other approach would be to say, do all 10 CL88's, and then people could buy the whole fleet! John P Well, it’s not unknown for them to run in pairs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 hours ago, jpendle said: But the other approach would be to say, do all 10 CL88's, and then people could buy the whole fleet! John P Bottom line is how many people want more than just 1 or 2 of them? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said: Bottom line is how many people want more than just 1 or 2 of them? Exactly. Most will buy one, some will buy 2. Is there enough out there to buy maybe 3000 of them ?.. thats maybe 2500 of one, 500 of the second... Lima struggled to sell 3000 of 92001 in the 1990’s, and thats when volumes were higher than now... class 92’s were dumped at retailers everywhere. Edited September 5, 2020 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted September 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) I wonder what (if any) external differences there would be between an 88 and a 93? Edited September 7, 2020 by 7013 clarity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 04/09/2020 at 12:48, Roy Langridge said: Blimey, that is such a subtle difference it could be argued that there are ten different liveries as they all have different names/numbers! I bet most people wouldn't spot the difference. Roy To be fair I never spotted the difference till they mentioned it, certainly wouldn't show on an N gauge model. Either way lets hope they find a 3rd livery, TPE 88 anyone? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, 7013 said: I wonder what (if any) external differences there would be between an 88 and a 93? Difficult to answer as the only "picture" of a 93 was a rendition of an 88 in ROG livery. Latest wibble is that the 93 designation may end up being a freight loco with 6 axles! Edited September 7, 2020 by newbryford 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) On 05/09/2020 at 20:06, adb968008 said: Exactly. Most will buy one, some will buy 2. Is there enough out there to buy maybe 3000 of them ?.. thats maybe 2500 of one, 500 of the second... Lima struggled to sell 3000 of 92001 in the 1990’s, and thats when volumes were higher than now... class 92’s were dumped at retailers everywhere. Yet Hornby are somehow getting blood from a stone with that tooling, despite putting a cheese slicer on the roof! Edited September 17, 2020 by letterspider 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 hours ago, letterspider said: Yet Hornby are somehow getting blood from a stone with that tooling, despite putting a cheese slicer on the roof! Actually they never used the Lima tooling, despite being much better in my opinion. They used their own tooling, which was a duplicate made in competition using the old Hornby motor, where as Lima used their pancake (as used in the 59/60). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I thought they used the Lima bodyshells to make a Limby? I agree that, motor aside, the Lima was a good model for the price - just needed a cab with driver, directional lighting, etched plates, sprung pantographs and NEM coupling sockets... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Railway Herald reports this week that ROG are about to order 10 CL93's with an option for a further 20. Regards, John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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