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brossard Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Dapol have been extremely slow to release new wagons. I'm thinking of the PalVan and Vanwide that must have been gestating for 2 years or so. These are on my list and I will probably build the Slater's kits. I get the impression that modellers today, the youngish ones, haven't got the same desire to build kits as those of us who are somewhat older. I also have the impression that many of those that do build kits are content to tip the box contents out and build the kit, instead of going for a model. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Hal Nail said: Aside from the satisfaction of building them, I think the Slaters one builds into a slightly better looking model personally, though not sure quite why: I think the roof is slightly finer which helps. On the other hand those cast Dapol chassis do run very well and I suspect the new 10 foot GWR underframe on the conflat will lead to some further new releases which may well duplicate the Parkside range. I'm buying the kits I want while they are still around! Dapol/Lionheart wagons do run very nicely. I am scarred by my first experience of a Dapol PO wagon which was pretty bad beneath the solebars (floppy wheelsets in brass tube brgs and excessive daylight at the brake shoes). These were done before the merger with LH. I rebuild the underframe using Bill Bedford W irons and brake gear. Satisfying to bring the wagon up to spec, but a lot of extra cost and effort. I am amazed at how many kits I have done over the last while. Still, I have a lot of wagons left to do in the Parky range. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Be careful on missing bearings for Dapol wagons. I've got a banana van and Dapol sent me a replacement but sellotaped it to a comp slip and it burst the envelope and it fell out in trasnit and now they claim they have no replacements in the UK. Now going to have to source another. To be honest the quality control on the banana vans is pretty poor as 3 others needed work on them before I could use them Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) I agree about kits, wagons anyway. RTR usually gives you about 80 - 90% of what you want but will always benefit from extra work. Those rigid vacuum pipes spring to mind, I replace them with Slater's flexible pipes. There still aren't that many different wagon types in RTR so we will need to mostly build kits. As for buildings, there are very few RTP (Ready To Plonk) buildings - there a few Scenecraft on Tower Models site. The buildings on my layout comprise of Scalescenes (scratchbuilding with the aid of excellent pre printed covers) and Lcut (laser cut parts that benefit from artful bodging). I just spent a couple of days constructing doors and windows for my Scalescenes Corner Shop. Here's a simple weigh bridge hut: Hut structure is Lcut but faced with Scalescenes brick. Roof tiles are also Scalesenes. Brass tube downspout with wire brackets in plastic. The weighbridge itself is also a Scalescenes print. I made the white guide from square section brass. John Edited September 11, 2020 by brossard 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Nice modelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pwr Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 These Dapol small o-6-0's are a real bargain and so well made. I hope you enjoy them. Paul R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted September 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Very good, you will not regret it. The 74xx is in early BR guise as it carries a smokebox number plate and shed plate. I have found these can be removed with care if you wish to put it back to pure GWR livery. If you do, it will then need a number adding to the buffer beam. Cheers, Ade. Edited September 18, 2020 by Adrian Stevenson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Very nice, too bad you have gone to the dark side. My friend bought a second hand Lionheart 74XX. I left it in GWR livery but made it look like a BR loco with smokebox number plate and buffer beam numbers removed. I also repositioned the cab route disc. I gave it quite a heavy weather as you can see. The model my friend bought did not have a top feed (these were added around 1942) so I made one. Happy birthday BTW. John Edited September 18, 2020 by brossard 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Actually Amanda, my model could be grubbier. I created a thread to get input on locos in GWR livery in the BR era: I got some really good pictures so these may be of use to you. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Dava Posted September 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2020 Invertrain do a useful range of stonecast wagon loads & accessories for variety, they take acrylic paints well. https://invertrain.com/product-category/wagon-loads/all/ Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Nearly there then. I glued 2" (50mm?) foam to my baseboards with the same idea in mind. The foam does raise an issue with turnout motors (mine are Tortoise) under the board. The actuating rod gets to be really long. I excavated through the foam and board where necessary and inserted 1/4" ply as a motor mount. I borrowed my friends vibrating saw which did a great job: John Edited October 4, 2020 by brossard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The foam is orange. I only used ply as an insert as shown in the first pic. Adding the foam did create another job. I'm still not sure whether it was worth it. I only used Tortoise because I had them in stock recovered from an earlier layout. From what I've seen, Cobalt from DCC concepts may be better. My friend's layout uses mechanical switch machines: https://www.micromark.com/Blue-Point-Switch-MachineTurnout-Controller I have operated his layout at a show and I am quite impressed with these. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I used Wabbit stationary decoders (again left over from previous layout) and went down the simple route, wiring up momentary on push buttons in the fascia. I put the buttons adjacent to the turnouts. I also put the buttons on both sides of the layout so it can be operated from either/both sides. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Amanda, You are off and running now. Great to see. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 11/09/2020 at 15:35, brossard said: I agree about kits, wagons anyway. RTR usually gives you about 80 - 90% of what you want but will always benefit from extra work. Those rigid vacuum pipes spring to mind, I replace them with Slater's flexible pipes. There still aren't that many different wagon types in RTR so we will need to mostly build kits. As for buildings, there are very few RTP (Ready To Plonk) buildings - there a few Scenecraft on Tower Models site. The buildings on my layout comprise of Scalescenes (scratchbuilding with the aid of excellent pre printed covers) and Lcut (laser cut parts that benefit from artful bodging). I just spent a couple of days constructing doors and windows for my Scalescenes Corner Shop. Here's a simple weigh bridge hut: Hut structure is Lcut but faced with Scalescenes brick. Roof tiles are also Scalesenes. Brass tube downspout with wire brackets in plastic. The weighbridge itself is also a Scalescenes print. I made the white guide from square section brass. John Looks great, but the white guard rail hasn’t been bent by a careless trucky.......not authentic at all 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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