Docklands Sidings - Restoring photo's!

[sb67]

Did some test pics with my new camera last night, loads better than pics with my phone! Now hoping to get on with a bit more scenic work as it's taking far too long! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 26 by sb67

[sb67]

Finally got round to adding a few more weeds on this bit, hopefully giving my mojo a bit of a kick start!

Not sure what it is but I cant help feeling the scene doesn't look quite right. I'm going for a run down look but I think it looks a bit clinical, maybe needs some junk or something. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 26 by sb67

[Sasquatch]

22 minutes ago, sb67 said:

Finally got round to adding a few more weeds on this bit, hopefully giving my mojo a bit of a kick start!

Not sure what it is but I cant help feeling the scene doesn't look quite right. I'm going for a run down look but I think it looks a bit clinical, maybe needs some junk or something. 

 

 

 

Broken drain pipe and a rusty barrel perhaps but looks pretty over grown and neglected otherwise.

 

Great modeling 

Regards Shaun.

[sb67]

Thanks Shaun, I was thinking about some junk but I want to be careful not to overdo it. Think I'll put some small trees growing behind the wall too.

[sb67]

Been thinking about adding some small lineside details. I was wondering in some concrete trunking and a cabinet would be appropriate, also I was looking at some old point rodding, or at least the stools or concrete plinths. I was hoping to show a line that has been really downgraded over the years so I'm not sure what to include. 

Edited October 31, 2021 by sb67

[Gilbert]

45 minutes ago, sb67 said:

Been thinking about adding some small lineside details. I was wondering in some concrete trunking and a cabinet would be appropriate, also I was looking at some old point rodding, or at least the stools or concrete plinths. I was hoping to show a line that has been really downgraded over the years so I'm not sure what to include. 

I suggest a bit of photo browsing would be in order..find something you like..

Chris

[sb67]

 

 

On 31/10/2021 at 19:39, Gilbert said:

I suggest a bit of photo browsing would be in order..find something you like..

Chris

Thanks Gilbert, I have started browsing, easy to get distracted though, and end up with ideas for another layout! 

 

I decided to use some Ratio security fencing I have had in the box for ages, painted the posts and I'd appreciate any tips on 'planting' the fence and getting the mesh on straight.

Many thanks

 

 

 

[Gilbert]

I tend to replace the "wire" with as small a brass or ns wire as I can which helps keep everything straight.

I normally make up a strip of wood with the necessary holes to act as a jig and make up and finish the fence away from the layout - then plant it - which is fine if your making it for a level surface. This also allows you to tension the mesh on the fence while you glue it and then trim down when complete.

Chris

[sb67]

56 minutes ago, Gilbert said:

I tend to replace the "wire" with as small a brass or ns wire as I can which helps keep everything straight.

I normally make up a strip of wood with the necessary holes to act as a jig and make up and finish the fence away from the layout - then plant it - which is fine if your making it for a level surface. This also allows you to tension the mesh on the fence while you glue it and then trim down when complete.

Chris

 

Thanks Chris, I never thought of assembling it away from the layout. I will try that. 

[Gilbert]

I like the yellow brick building in the photos - what's the story with that one?

[sb67]

Thanks Chris, it was based on a photo in a book of Harrow Lane sidings in East London, I think the building used to be railway offices.  I've always admired layouts that are based on real locations and wanted to do something similar, lost my way a bit though as I didn't think the backscene through enough, but I am pleased with that building. 

 

[Gilbert]

1 hour ago, sb67 said:

Thanks Chris, it was based on a photo in a book of Harrow Lane sidings in East London, I think the building used to be railway offices.  I've always admired layouts that are based on real locations and wanted to do something similar, lost my way a bit though as I didn't think the backscene through enough, but I am pleased with that building. 

 

Construction details please - I love a mundane structure well modelled...

[sb67]

I'll do my best, not at home at the moment but I should be back Monday and I try and put some pics on here. 

[sb67]

On 05/11/2021 at 08:11, Gilbert said:

I like the yellow brick building in the photos - what's the story with that one?

 

I was inspired by a photo of Harrow Lane Goods office in London's East End Diesels, by D. Brennand and the building wasn't to be an exact copy.  Construction methods are pretty standard,  I used the photo and others found on the web to measure out the details on to some embossed plasticard, I counted the brick courses for the windows etc. That was glued to a shell of mountboard and Lintels etc were added from plasticard. 

I did struggle to get the yellow brick looking ok, I got a bit of advice from a thread I started on here.

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/160904-yellow-brick-painting-advice-sought/page/2/

The grass and weeds in front are static grass which was 'planted' in clumps over a base of 2mm static grass, the clumps are then thinned out using tweezers. I find this gives a random look to the grass. Weeds and bramble are Postiche or Horsehair with flock added. 

The Ragwort and Dock were based on an idea on this thread, about halfway down the page.

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/161395-mols-msc-layout-the-boysnope-bump/page/11/

There's still a lot to to at the right hand end of the layout and I want to put a bit of well placed junk in the area. 

Hope that gives a better explanation.

[DavidLong]

On 05/11/2021 at 16:29, sb67 said:

Thanks Chris, it was based on a photo in a book of Harrow Lane sidings in East London, I think the building used to be railway offices.  I've always admired layouts that are based on real locations and wanted to do something similar, lost my way a bit though as I didn't think the backscene through enough, but I am pleased with that building. 

 

That will be this one and happily it still exists or at least it did when I photographed it in 2012 (was it really nine years ago . . . !?)

 

 

David

[sb67]

That's the one David, any idea what it's used for now, or 2012 at least.

[DavidLong]

1 hour ago, sb67 said:

That's the one David, any idea what it's used for now, or 2012 at least.

I'm sorry I don't, Steve. Whatever and whoever seemed to be very concerned about security with all those heavy duty window bars and CCTV cameras. It was quite a surprise to find it alive and well though.

 

David

[sb67]

I was thinking about using a ground frame to represent point operation and was wondering where this should go on my layout? I've drawn where I think it and the point rodding would go but I wondered if the 'real'' railway had any rules as to the placing of it? 

Also as it's meant to represent a really downgraded line, would the real railway have bothered or just used point levers? 

 

 

 

[37114]

19 minutes ago, sb67 said:

I was thinking about using a ground frame to represent point operation and was wondering where this should go on my layout? I've drawn where I think it and the point rodding would go but I wondered if the 'real'' railway had any rules as to the placing of it? 

Also as it's meant to represent a really downgraded line, would the real railway have bothered or just used point levers? 

 

 

 

I can't comment on the location of the ground frame but I agree I would have thought point levers would be more likely?

[Flying Pig]

4 hours ago, sb67 said:

I was thinking about using a ground frame to represent point operation and was wondering where this should go on my layout? I've drawn where I think it and the point rodding would go but I wondered if the 'real'' railway had any rules as to the placing of it? 

Also as it's meant to represent a really downgraded line, would the real railway have bothered or just used point levers? 

 

 

 

 

See earlier posts in the thread - local hand levers was the general conclusion. 

 

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[sb67]

Ta, guys. The thought of retro fitting point rodding wasn't that appealing so Point levers it will be. 

[sb67]

I've finally finished the fencing at the backscene so I thought I'd actually 'play trains'  and run some stuff! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next up is the point levers and what to put in the area at the front of the layout, I was thinking a grounded coach body or portacabin depending on the era but they look a bit too big so I might go for an LNER concrete hut and associated junk. 

 

 

Edited February 26 by sb67

[Gilbert]

1 hour ago, sb67 said:

I've finally finished the fencing at the backscene so I thought I'd actually 'play trains'  and run some stuff! 

 

 

 

 

 I might go for an LNER concrete hut and associated junk. 

 

 

SMS scrubs up well - I have two on different layouts..

[37114]

2 hours ago, sb67 said:

I've finally finished the fencing at the backscene so I thought I'd actually 'play trains'  and run some stuff! 

 

 

 

 

Next up is the point levers and what to put in the area at the front of the layout, I was thinking a grounded coach body or portacabin depending on the era but they look a bit too big so I might go for an LNER concrete hut and associated junk. 

 

 

You have a big space there, I would be tempted to segregate it into 2 or 3 different areas. One suggestion could be to use at least one larger building to break up the view so that the viewer is "drawn in" to the layout by having to look around the building.  Gordon Gravett's Arun Quay is a great example of this for example

[sb67]

Thanks Guys. 

 

@Gilbert That's exactly what I had in mind, what colours is the bottom one painted in? 

 

@37114 The space is deceiving, it's not really that big, I do like the idea of looking behind a building though, that's given me something to think about.