RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted May 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, kirtleypete said: I've been back to do more on the layout today. The big job was to plan the outside platform with it's canopy and waiting rooms. We put a long paper in place to mark out as a template which I have brought home. I had finished the inside faces of the side walls, and left the outside faces blank for the moment. The position of everything is clearly marked now. I have also done more work to the portico area which just needs some detailing now. Peter For anyone who knows York this model is so much more than 'just' accurate. It oozes the character of the place in a way too few layouts really do. This is a bona fide work of art - love it. 2 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 19, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 This information has been passed on to me by my customer to post on here: The track layout being modelled is captured on these two photos. One photo shows the modelled lines and platforms in the station itself and immediately north and south. Lines shaded in pink are not being modelled, the rest have already been or will be. The other photo shows the modelled lines heading north past the loco yard, North Shed, and the Clifton carriage sidings. Lines in green are those modelled within the yard, those in pink are Up and Down Main lines. For the North Shed, there is only room for a single roundhouse and a two road straight shed, and in any event the actual building is so massive it would dwarf the station and hotel, so its just the one. Which reflects Prosser’s vision for the trainshed roof that it should not dominate the York skyline and the Minster, which led him to the vaulted design we know so well. The shape of the room, essentially square, means that the main lines and loco yard can be curled round the back wall so that they end up running parallel to the line of the station which gives enough room for to include the yard at about 2/3rd scale length, reflecting the model as a whole. I haven’t got as far as drawing up the track plan to scale, either freehand, or with software as used by the model press. One day…... Although the layout cannot be exhibited there will certainly be more articles and hopefully video as well. Peter 29 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted May 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 hours ago, kirtleypete said: Peter Due to space constraints and the necessary slight "shortening" of the layout, it is a shame that the York-Malton Lineman's room couldn't be included in the model (opposite the bonnet of the car in above photo). However, this doesn't detract one iota from what is a quite stunning piece of modelling and demenstration of such craftsmanship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 21, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 I've begun work on the side walls that go along the far side of the train shed. The aluminium sheet, 0.9mm thick, has been shaped to sit on the platform surface so that all the structures can be built on it and then slid out of the way if necessary. The black dots mark the positions of the canopy supports. This is the inside face that goes inside the train shed. The height difference will be hidden inside the signal box. I need to complete the detailing of these areas before the canopy is attached. The clear plastic boxes will be waiting rooms. Peter 24 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 22, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 I was unclear about what the waiting rooms looked like in the 50's but my customer pointed out that the ones there now are the original structures, built with the signal box, and would originally have looked much like it. Armed with that knowledge I removed the ones I did yesterday and began again. I cut three sides from 2mm clear plastic and glued them in place with Plastruct corners, and then added pieces of 0.5mm plastic as overlays. The shape of the waiting rooms is right now, with much more rounded corners. Small pieces of plastic mark out the opening. The real thing has windows right on the rounded corner but I'm afraid I draw the line at that, it's more important that the structure keeps it's shape. The glazing bars were added from thin strip, glued directly to the glazing with solvent. The doors were cut out, glued in place and painted blue. The vertical strips of brick were added next. With the horizontal bands of brick and then the stone courses the waiting room looks the part. There is no roof as it will be directly under the canopy. Peter 22 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 22, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 I've added the huge girder that supports the signal box. The H beams are Plastruct - what would I do without it! With that in place I could add the basic shape of the signal box. I will straighten that upright! Peter 29 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted May 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2021 This is inspiring stuff, Peter. Many thanks for showing the step-by-step construction, I have been fazed by architectural modelling in the past but seeing your approach, the materials you use and the realism of the end product makes me want to give it a go! I don’t think I’ll ever achieve the speed of construction that you manage, though... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 The hardest thing is making a start Phil, but once you do there'll be no stopping you. The nice thing is that the materials are cheap so if something goes wrong you bin it and do it again and no one but you knows! Using printed papers speeds things up enormously, and of course those round corners aren't a problem. Speed doesn't matter if you're just building for yourself, take as long as it needs. Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2021 I've made more progress this morning: The canopy covering is Wills corrugated asbestos. This end is much more complicated but it makes a satisfying model. Access to the steps leading into the small annex on the signal box seems to have been up a spiral staircase from the platform, but on the model it is too close to the edge to do that. At the moment I'm leaving the part below the canopy to the imagination. Peter 30 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2021 This will do for today - the lawn needs mowing! It's not an architectural masterpiece, is it. This is the side facing into the train shed. Peter 31 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, kirtleypete said: It's not an architectural masterpiece, is it. No, the real thing might not be, but yours is a modelling masterpiece. 2 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 24, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2021 As long as it fits when I deliver it! I've begun doing the right hand half of the wall and canopy, leaving the footbridge in the middle until both sides are complete. The paper template marks the edge of the platform. Peter 27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 The second section is nearly done, leaving the footbridge to build tomorrow and the area around it. The waiting room is complete and the framework of the canopy has been built up. This is the other side of the model. The framework has been painted and now the roof of Wills sheets is being added. Where these need shaping I always cut them from the back, it gives a far neater cut. I use a Stanley knife, this is no time for subtlety! There is a gentle slope to the front edge. I'll be delivering the models and trying them in place on Thursday. Peter 27 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2021 Looking forward to seeing them in place. Lots of photos please, Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) After some pretty serious tidying up (!) I've got both pieces on my workbench so the gap I need to fill tomorrow is more obvious. The problem is that the footbridge needs to be removable and separate from both sections of the model, so there will be three items that need to look like one when they are in place. I'm only modelling the footbridge as far as the platform edge, then the rest will be made separate again with the far platform and canopy. I ought to go into Jigsaw production! Thankfully the canopy lines up nicely in height and alignment, and the footbridge will be between the two parts. Peter Edited May 25, 2021 by kirtleypete 28 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted May 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2021 The whole building work on this project is a true credit to you Peter, hopefully you are very proud of what you have created for your client - and justifiably so. Rich 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) I've spent another day on the layout today. Frustratingly the two sections I delivered don't fit properly, something that can happen when you're building them away from the layout however carefully you think you've measured everything. I've left them to sort out next week. This gives an idea of how it will look, but I've got to reduce the width of the signal box by 8mm as I didn't allow for the thickness of the yellow brick wall when I drew the template. The idea of modelling the whole thing on a sheet of Aluminium works very well though. As I wasn't in the right frame of mind to do that today I have completed the area around the hotel and the grass bank between Leeman Road and the river. finally bringing all that area together. A lot of people don't realise that there was only one car in York in 1958! It's amazing how much better the hotel looks with the area around it modelled. It can still be lifted out if necessary. We decided that a simple grass bank was all that was needed here. i laid in the basic contours using sheets of black card glued in place with a hot glue gun, and then added the grass using a horrible bright green mat which was all I could get. All is not lost! The grass mat is just the undercoat; I sprayed it with Photomount and sprinkled on various colours and lengths of static grass, just using my fingers. I'll complete the road on my next visit. I even remembered to dust the river! I'll be going back on Monday and between now and then there are lots of small jobs to complete for the layout. Peter Edited May 27, 2021 by kirtleypete 34 1 15 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 Good work on show, as ever. Interested to see IKEA’s IVAR shelving system being used under the layout. I have used this myself and it serves the purpose very well. Great for under-baseboard storage too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 I think they were just offcuts being used as legs....nothing goes to waste! Looking at the pictures again the expanse of grey tarmac strikes me...the 1955 photograph shows no white lines at all. I was posed with my brush and pot of paint, but to no avail. We're so used to seeing lines all over the road it's a shock to see how well they seemed to cope without them! Peter 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 While there are no white lines there are places where the road surface has been patched which would help break up the expanse of tarmac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Good point, that would be well worth doing. It seems that it may not be necessary to rebuild the signal box after all which will make my life a lot easier next week! Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Well done Peter. Between you you and your client are creating a masterpiece Cheers David 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I've said it before but I'll say it again... Absolutely superb modelling and an astonishing rate of progress. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Been following this topic with interest, and all I can say is WOW Fantastic modelling. Keep up the fantastic work. Regards Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted May 31, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) I've pretty much completed the area around the Leeman Road bridge now apart from some fencing and odds and ends. It's all very compressed but I think it looks convincing. There's that car again! I am assured more vehicles are on their way.............. Two of my favourite things....rock 'n' roll and Diana Dors! Looking the other way. I'll be back on Wednesday so more pictures then. Peter Edited May 31, 2021 by kirtleypete 36 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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