David Bell Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Absolutely brilliant! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TerryBewdley Posted May 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2021 Incredible modelling 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Just superb. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted June 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2021 Utterly believable for someone familiar with the location (albeit from the 1970's onwards). You've cleverly highlighted the key sights which successfully distract from the compression. That little red kiosk for example which I think was there at least into the early '80's. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted June 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 I've had a long day on the layout today although I don't seem to have achieved much. I had hoped to finish it this week but that isn't going to happen. I have put the footbridge in place, which can simply be lifted off as it covers a baseboard joint. The canopy on the right that had to be removed is being put back. The roof around the footbridge is fixed to it rather than the platform. The canopy at the far end has been extended to the correct length. The walls and canopy on the right slide out; I have kept them in two pieces as it much easier to handle like that. The aluminium on the right is lifting a little as the wood underneath is not perfectly flat, something that is easy to put right. There will be a similar canopy all the way along the platform in the foreground. That is going to be an awful lot of nearly flat corrugated roof! I have done a little to the other side of the station; this will be completed when all the canopies are in place. I've brought items home to work on tomorrow and I'll be back down there on Friday so more pictures then, Peter 35 9 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted June 4, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 Another good day today, I got a lot done. The canopy on the left is new; it does not look like the real one as we haven't the room for an island platform. There will be tracks in the foreground in due course...I hope I've left room! My customer is currently in York and naturally visited the station....he sent me a picture showing that the platform overt he Leeman Road bridge is wooden so I've made the alteration. I've also done more to the entrance area; I need to finish off the white piece at home so I'll complete it all next week. I will fill that great gap in the roof - I forgot all about it today. The next part of the story carries on below........ 29 10 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted June 4, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) The original NER canopies need to be modelled. The pillars and brackets were 3D printed and are already fixed in place on the platform, but the canopy itself has to be removable. Naturally they are mostly curved! I began by cutting out the girders that support the roof. On the real thing they are quite slender metal fabrications but on the model making them like that would not be anything like strong enough, so I have cut out triangles of 2mm plastic and added the detail on both sides. They look very solid here but when they are painted and weathered they should look OK, and they will be very difficult to see anyway. The U shaped pieces on the bottom slot over the brackets and hold the canopy in place. Because the canopy reduces in width along it's length every piece is different. I added a bracket to each side from a piece of L shaped Plastruct. The Plastruct supports the plastic strip that forms the sides, following the curve of the platform. Longitudinal timbers (plastics!) were glued to the tops of the brackets; these are not attached to the canopy itself but help locate it. The laser cut valencing was prepared. The top of the canopy is partly glazed so it needs to be painted before this is attached. Now that one is complete I can do the remaining two knowing the method works. I've got another 13 of the triangular pieces to make before that can happen, and yes, every one is a different size! Peter Edited June 4, 2021 by kirtleypete 21 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted June 8, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2021 Another visit today; I have put together and painted the NER canopies. I have begun cladding the far one, but have brought them home to finish. This is the entrance by the hotel; it looks odd because the board in front has been removed to give me access. The two clean panels will be weathered on my next visit. Difficult to photograph, but this shows the detail up in the roof area. Finally I have completed the two yards behind the hotel, much easier to get at with the boards separated. It all looks a bit clean at the moment, but the basics are there now. These little jobs seem to take an inordinate amount of time and when they are finished no one notices! Peter 30 14 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 These little jobs seem to take an inordinate amount of time and when they are finished no one notices! that is the sign of a good model. You notice they are absent from the others. richard 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted June 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2021 I've just got back for another day working on 'York' and we have agreed to call it the end of the first stage, although there will be the odd day over the Summer as things arise. Here then is a set of pretty pictures. More below.......... 25 13 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted June 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2021 As you will see there are still jobs to be done, but I think it does now look like York station in the late 1950's. It has been a huge pleasure to have the chance to be involved in the project, especially now that we can sit back, look at it and run trains. Peter 29 14 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I've said it before and I'll say it again - WOW!! There is one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb and sorry if I am picking on a work-in-progress or temporary feature, but it should be quite trivial to fix - the contrast on that zebra crossing in front of the hotel looks far too bright - fresh out of the paint shop. Although I have seen black paint used it is usually plain tarmac - they normally look rather more worn. The road markings have changed over the years though. The pole for the Belisha beacon isn't in quite the right place (but for all I know the real one at York may have been wrong!) - it would not normally be in the middle of the pedestrian walkway but at the side cars approach from and the one at the far side would be diagonally opposite. A road that wide would usually have a central island with a (taller) pole in the middle. https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/films/1945to1951/filmpage_pc.htm 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Simply stunning. You should be very proud. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 The crossing does look bright in the picture Michael but it's actually two shades of grey, I tried to make it reasonably dull but perhaps it needed toning down a bit more. It looks better in the flesh. I'll have another look at the pole, it's easy enough to move. We are still trying to find something suitable for the globe on top. Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, kirtleypete said: The crossing does look bright in the picture Michael but it's actually two shades of grey, I tried to make it reasonably dull but perhaps it needed toning down a bit more. It looks better in the flesh. I'll have another look at the pole, it's easy enough to move. We are still trying to find something suitable for the globe on top. Peter I raided my wife’s stash of dressmakers pins……these have different coloured tops. This is N gauge but they are overscale. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted June 17, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 We had a visitor today. David, who had spotted the photos of the lines of red buses outside the station posted on this thread, and the absence thereof on the model, and decided to help us fix it in one go. And yes, buses come in 3s! Thank you. Peter 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, kirtleypete said: We had a visitor today. David, who had spotted the photos of the lines of red buses outside the station posted on this thread, and the absence thereof on the model, and decided to help us fix it in one go. And yes, buses come in 3s! Thank you. Peter You are very welcome. I really enjoyed my visit and the chance to see your incredible work close up. The view over the whole model is really stunning. Cheers David 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 I wasn't able to be there today and so didn't have the pleasure of meeting David, but I'm delighted to see the road finally looking so busy....you can almost smell the diesel fumes! Peter 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggzuk Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Hi Pete, has there been any more progress on this epic build? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JustinDean Posted September 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2021 I’ll second that! Would love to see any progress on York. Thanks Jay 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabletopengineer Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Thanks for sharing, this is epic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Wow wow wow what a thread I’ve just spent an hour and a half reading through it and like many others am blown away by the magnificent skill and scale of this project. I have never in all the years that I’ve been on RMweb hit the craftsman/ clever button some many times . I would hate to think of the costs involved but it would be interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted October 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2021 I've just got back from 'York' with a large baseboard on which the roundhouse loco shed will be built over the next month or so. This is how my customer has brought it to the stage where I can begin work on it. Thanks everyone for your interest, and your patience. After nearly 4 months away we have planned the next phase, which is the North Shed and loco yard. My customer has been busy designing a scheme that captures the spirit of the shed in the 1950’s but at a scale appropriate to the rest of the about and the space available. The base drawing was provided by York City Council planning department, and comes from a planning application in the early 1980’s to incorporate the diesel servicing depot into the National Railway Museum after purchasing from British Rail. At this time, the structure of the building around and over the display area, which was originally Roundhouses 3 & 4, was built in 1958 when the shed was modernised using a BR standard ‘nave and aisle’ design, and so fits the period we have modelled. We simply didn’t have room for both roundhouses, so we have opted just for No 4, with its 70’ turntable and 24 stable roads. This allows more generous space for some of the roads than a pure scale model would allow, so that most roads can take the longest pacific locos, and the shortest ones a K1 or D20. We didn’t have room for the diesel servicing depot, so have gone for a representation in the form of a short, 2 road straight shed. The planning application drawings include elevation drawings showing the form of the concrete beams running transverse to the two naves and aisles, and the massive longitudinal trusses. The next few pictures show the sequence of construction for the 4’ x 3’ board on which the ADM turntable, stable roads and main shed building sit. The baseboard itself, which sits on its own trolley, is removeable so as to give access to the boards behind. The shed floor and inspection pits are constructed from a 6mm ply base, 3mm mdf with laser cut inspection pits, 2mm mdf packing, 2mm laser cut wedges between the roads, topped with 1/8” ply laser cut wedges which sit in the web of the rails, leaving the rail head proud so that they can be cleaned easily. Laser cut parts were used to achieve a precise alignment of the 24 roads around the clock, and to save a great deal of time cutting out the inspection pits. At this point, my customer realised that the board would be too heavy to lift, and set about removing as much material as possible. With 4 lightweight ply beams glued to the underside, the resulting structure is light, rigid, and lifts easily off its trolley to fit in my car. The turntable can be removed from the underside by releasing 4 bolts. The shed board was now ready. 26 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted October 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2021 Next the boards either side were built, again removeable to allow access to the boards behind. Altogether three more pieces in this giant jigsaw puzzle The Leeman Road section, which lifts out easily, ties the shed to the coal yard. The coal drops have glued in position, and rails fitted. A few photos of my customers work on the permanent way that has progressed in parallel. The loco yard is starting to take shape. I'll be posting regularly again now that I'm working on the layout again. Peter 40 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Looking forward to seeing this develop. One of my earliest memories was my Dad lifting me up so I could see over the wall to the coaling plant with big green engines underneath. I don't know if you do Facebook but there's a special interest group 'York Past and Present' which has a lot of interesting old photos; a fair sprinkling of railway related ones. Edited October 9, 2021 by Neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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