RMweb Premium iands Posted November 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 hours ago, kirtleypete said: The ones in the bottom left corner of this picture: We need ground level pictures that show detail of the drops themselves, ideally, Peter Hi Peter, Although I'd be happy to be proved wrong, I'm certain the photo is well before the period your client is modelling - the power house that was provided for the 1951 resignalling at York is not shown in the photo. Therefore more than likely the photo pre dates WW2, and as 50A55B says, they were "remodelled" by the Luftwaffe. Would the coal drops have been repaired after WW2? Not sure on this, I'll see if I can find any info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 The drops are still there, sort of. The lower level of the Acpoa car park on Leeman road is fitted in around the remains of the coal cells, you can drive around it on Google earth. It's not ideal bit it will at least give you an idea of brickwork, general layout etc. The buttress nearest the ramp up to to the IECC is a recent replacement (it's hollow so not entirely sure whether it's actually holding anything up !) but the others are the cut back remains of the coal cell crosswalls. Incidentally, the stables further up Leeman Rd, increasingly dilapidated in recent years, was surrounded by scaffolding this afternoon and sporting a very fetching NER red/cream colour scheme. Really enjoying this thread ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 That's interesting, I'll have a look on Google Earth and street view. The coals cells certainly seem to have been there in the 50's - they may well have been pretty much standard NER structures but it would be nice to know. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2020 Further to my last post, I've been looking for info on the coal drops. Unfortunately not much found, and surprisingly it seems they escaped damage from the Luftwaffe judging by a 'bomb map' found. I was led to believe, anecdotally, that a string of bombs hit the station and yards, apparently not. So the coal drops may well have been still in use in the early 50s but as yet I not found any evidence, but, based on the photo posted earlier, some of the sidings were modified (shortened) by the time of the 1951 resignalling. I can confirm physical evidence of the coal drops still exist (an awful lot of brick work) as I used to have a staff permit for the car park that now occupies the area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 This is what they look like now, but it doesn't help as great deal: I've got pictures of other NER drops, so all is not lost, Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, kirtleypete said: This is what they look like now, but it doesn't help as great deal: I've got pictures of other NER drops, so all is not lost, Peter Yep, that's them. As I said earlier, an awful lot of bricks and if IIRC the original surface was concrete not tarmac, if that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, iands said: Yep, that's them. As I said earlier, an awful lot of bricks and if IIRC the original surface was concrete not tarmac, if that helps. I’m sure it was sets as it was the car park used by Headquarters staff till it became an overpriced car park! The building on the corner were the York Driver Managers offices in the 1990’s with classrooms for the training school! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said: I’m sure it was sets as it was the car park used by Headquarters staff till it became an overpriced car park! The building on the corner were the York Driver Managers offices in the 1990’s with classrooms for the training school! I recall it being either a bricks or sets floor too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Setts sounds likely to me. I'm amazed they were so close to the station, the coal dust must have covered everything. I've been working on the portico and booking hall area, a couple of pictures show how it's progressing: It's all hugely compressed, but that can't be avoided. The roof lifts off, and so will the one over the booking hall. Peter 12 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Then there was York South and North loco sheds all surrounding the station! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2020 27 minutes ago, john new said: I recall it being either a bricks or sets floor too. Thanks John and Mark for jogging my memory, thinking about it, you're correct, it was 'sets'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 All in the plan Mark, or at least as much of it as we can fit in. The atmosphere must have been incredible! Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 8 hours ago, iands said: 8 hours ago, kirtleypete said: This is what they look like now, but it doesn't help as great deal: I've got pictures of other NER drops, so all is not lost, Peter At the far end, by the steps up to the next car park, there remains a COALITE sign on a wooden board. I'm sure some of my Ebor group mates remember the drops in use. They have tried to explain how it was worked, but I don't really understand them, but then that aerial photo is difficult to decipher as well. There is a very large aerial view of the York railway complex in 1936 as the end papers of Leigh, Chris (1987) The Aerofilms Book of Britain's railways from the air. Ian Allan ISBN 0 7110 1702 6 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) The Aerolfilms collection contains four pictures of the station taken in 1947 - I've just ordered high res copies. For those interested, the website is www.britainfromabove.org but beware, it's addictive! Peter Edited November 10, 2020 by kirtleypete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kirtleypete Posted November 11, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) Three pictures of the Portico. Peter Edited November 11, 2020 by kirtleypete 10 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2020 42 minutes ago, kirtleypete said: Three pictures of the Portico. Peter Inspirational modelling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 14:06, kirtleypete said: Setts sounds likely to me. I'm amazed they were so close to the station, the coal dust must have covered everything. I've been working on the portico and booking hall area, a couple of pictures show how it's progressing: It's all hugely compressed, but that can't be avoided. The roof lifts off, and so will the one over the booking hall. Peter Absolutely fantastic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) On 11/11/2020 at 14:52, kirtleypete said: Three pictures of the Portico. Peter Your client will need to buy a lot of buses. (IIRC this from 1977 so a fair bit later) Edited November 6, 2022 by john new Photo(s) found and replaced post crash. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 What a great picture! I'll pass it on to him. Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 The Leeman Road bridge is now in place, after a few alterations had to be made. Peter 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 The aerial photo's taken in 1947 arrived today; there are four and unfortunately they are all very similar. I've tried focussing in on the station area but naturally the sharpness is lost. The wartime damage to the station is still under repair in the centre of the station. I was hoping for a clear image of the coal yard but it's still frustratingly fuzzy. Never happy, are we! Peter 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 Amazing how much railway has disappeared from around York station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, kirtleypete said: The Leeman Road bridge is now in place, after a few alterations had to be made. Peter Hi Peter, Slight distraction, but in the second photo, at the back, in front of the angled thingy, is that a lever frame? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 51 minutes ago, kirtleypete said: The Leeman Road bridge is now in place, after a few alterations had to be made. Peter Good evening. As someone that works for the railway in York and is originally from Louth I’m very interested in both projects that have been mentioned here. What is being done here to represent York is simply stunning - and tastefully adjusted to meet the constraints set. Is that a model of Louth station in the background of the bottom picture? Exceptional modelling here... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtleypete Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Well spotted chaps, that is Louth station in the background with it's lever frame...in due course it will all be part of the same layout. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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