18B Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hi, would anyone happen to have any shots of 61001/09 with different BR emblems on their tenders from around the time of April 1948? (Ideally publishable ones) TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I don't think any exist. Never seen any and there wasn't any in the books on the subject from people like David Jenkinson and Brian Haresnape. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: I don't think any exist. Never seen any and there wasn't any in the books on the subject from people like David Jenkinson and Brian Haresnape. Jason that's a real shame, what even were the different emblems depicted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Like this. Kitten with ball of wool seems apt. https://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/lms-style-british-railways-branding Any photos were possibly destroyed or lost. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, 18B said: Hi, would anyone happen to have any shots of 61001/09 with different BR emblems on their tenders from around the time of April 1948? (Ideally publishable ones) TIA There are two in Yeadons Register Volume 6. Not sure who took the pictures though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, slilley said: There are two in Yeadons Register Volume 6. Not sure who took the pictures though. Ooh! I hadn't thought of looking there. I've been curious about what they looked like for a while. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, 18B said: Hi, would anyone happen to have any shots of 61001/09 with different BR emblems on their tenders from around the time of April 1948? (Ideally publishable ones) TIA Pretty impossible given no BR emblem existed in 1948; the "lion on wheel" appearing in 1949 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: Pretty impossible given no BR emblem existed in 1948; the "lion on wheel" appearing in 1949 The two locos in question had experimental logos on the tender. You can see the genesis of the Lion and Wheel emblem in them. They only lasted a couple of days and were inspected by Railway Executive officials at Liverpool STreet station on 19th April 1948. The emblems were removed after the inspection according to Yeadon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Looks like a cross between Tiddles and Sisyphus; thankfully no Tondu loco was ever disfigured with it or I'd have to model it... In April 1948 there was no adopted BR emblem or livery, and instructions were to carry on as before but not paint any company logo, initials, or lettering, thus there were a variety of versions of 'British Railways' applied to tank and tender sides in the styles of the previous Big 4, the WR reverting to their 1923-34 style for the lettering. From 1/1/48 the standard liveries were adopted for locos with the 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' in Gill Sans various sizes, to be replaced by the unicycling lion in 1949. To my eyes, the unicycling lion may have been a bit old-fashioned in 1949, but it does have a sort of post-Art Deco dignity to it and similar icons were around 2 years later at the Festival of Britain, so it was 'of it's time'. Sisyphus would have been an ideal name for Big Bertha... Edited September 9, 2020 by The Johnster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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