RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, BWsTrains said: Andy, enough! Please don't impose your own rigorous standards on the rest of us Colin Just be grateful that he didn't include the 6 inch nails and 8 inch screws on the list - the latter requiring Allen keys to tighten them up. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, BWsTrains said: Jeff, I probably missed it but are you putting stones on rear face? A lot of work for an area out of view. Colin Colin, have a look at the last pic of the first post tonight (now on page 20). You are quite correct, it is a lot of work. But I actually - being a silly sod - feel guilty that I'm not covering each pier with stones to the zero level. Even though - as I commented earlier this evening - that doing so would be very stupid as they'd be below "ground". Almost the same argument for not doing the back (East) side. A VERY unscientific reason, but it just wouldn't be "right" not to do the back - arch rings commenced ten hours ago. It IS all a bit bonkers, but so was doing it in DAS. On the subject of which, both the underbridge and occupation bridge (see very first post in GH thread) will be DAS-builds. Jeff 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Lovely work Just remember, seeing the Class 24 in the background: Coughs and Sneezles Spread Dieseel's ! (Thanks to the Rev. who taught me that...) that goes for everyone who reads this forum ! James 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambiedg Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Looking better by the day. Really great work. I especially liked your invention of the hump-backed viaduct in the “panorama” shot. Sorry couldn’t resist the frippery. More pictures are always a treat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2021 Looking fantastic, Jeff. You must be vey proud of your achievement in building such a solid-looking structure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: Looking fantastic, Jeff. You must be vey proud of your achievement in building such a solid-looking structure. I'm very pleased with progress, though I do find it amusing when I think it took 6 weeks to convert the garage, and it's now taken 6 weeks just to clad the piers with stones! I'm also amazed that I'm not getting fed up with the process. Maybe that tells me I'm satisfied with the way things have gone. Jeff 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, lambiedg said: Looking better by the day. Really great work. I especially liked your invention of the hump-backed viaduct in the “panorama” shot. Sorry couldn’t resist the frippery. More pictures are always a treat Yes, David. The hump-backed viaduct was my practice bridge. I needed a few weeks of stone-cladding to "warm up"!! Jeff 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Physicsman Posted January 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) I did say that I'd post a pic of the bowl of nose bogies DAS/PVA mortar. However, it doesn't look very exciting to the lens of my mobile, so I've cancelled the idea. To make up for the disappointment I'm sure that news has caused, I've added a pic of the 2 arches adjacent to pier 5 (at left). Nothing spectacular, but the 2 arch rings I've added today at the rear of the liners add a bit of "closure" to the rear of the view and allow me to start filling up the gaps between liner and ring, etc with some DAS. If nothing else, another pic to cause Pavlov's dog-type salivation! Jeff Edited January 17, 2021 by Physicsman Photo-shopped pic to increase contrast 11 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 20 hours ago, Physicsman said: Almost the same argument for not doing the back (East) side. A VERY unscientific reason, but it just wouldn't be "right" not to do the back - arch rings commenced ten hours ago. One day in the future you will go round the back with your camera and will be very glad you did those arches. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 That viaduct looks amazing. I think I may have to Jeff-nap you to build one on my layout Mark T 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, mark axlecounter said: That viaduct looks amazing. I think I may have to Jeff-nap you to build one on my layout Mark T Mark, I ought to go into business building the damn things! Bodgit has already tried to commission me to build him an O gauge construction. I wonder if there's enough DAS in the land, given as it has to be imported from Italy. Good to hear from you. 1 hour ago, Donington Road said: One day in the future you will go round the back with your camera and will be very glad you did those arches. Mick, your point is well taken - especially as there is a camera angle from just inside the door that looks along the back of the viaduct. Jeff 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium lankyandy Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 Having read this thread last night I just wanted to say how impressed I am with the build. I have been wanting to build a small photographic scene for my o gauge locos but couldn’t decide how to make it different to the usual embankment. Following your inspiration I am going to use your methods for a bridge in the scene and see what happens! Thank you for taking the time to document it in such detail. It’s really appreciated 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 18, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, lankyandy said: Having read this thread last night I just wanted to say how impressed I am with the build. I have been wanting to build a small photographic scene for my o gauge locos but couldn’t decide how to make it different to the usual embankment. Following your inspiration I am going to use your methods for a bridge in the scene and see what happens! Thank you for taking the time to document it in such detail. It’s really appreciated Hi Andy. That is the kind of post that makes being on RMweb so worthwhile. Thanks for your comments. If there's anything relevant to your build that needs further explanation just get in touch on here. Jeff Edited January 18, 2021 by Physicsman ZPeLLchEKUR - AGEN AGEN! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 18, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Update: I've now built and attached 4 arch rings to the East face. So that makes 12 of the 16 done. A 5th ring is half-completed and will be fitted tomorrow afternoon. Since Colin asked about the rear of the structure, and using it as a thin excuse to post a pic, find one duly attached. I also couldn't resist the latest update on THAT pic, now that the 3 relevant arches have both West and East arch rings. Jeff EDIT: WELL, that went well. I cropped the second image, deleted the original and now we have BOTH. Along with the ongoing ZPellcheckerrrrrrrrrrrr problems, I sometimes feel I'm going crackers when I post on here!! EDIT 2: I woke up this morning to find the duplicate has gone. I wonder if Wizard Andy York has been this way - OR was it all a figment of my EvoStik-affected imagination?!! Edited January 19, 2021 by Physicsman Cropping second image/contemplating reality 15 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 Really starting to look the part Jeff. All that patience is paying off! Regards Shaun 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Monday evening we were watching "The Architecture the Railways Built" Ep 4 which featured the S&C. It made it here to Oz quickly only having aired last May in the UK (Yesterday/UKTV). For any who missed it well worth going back to explore as there are in detail looks at the building and restoration of Ribblehead as well as the various MR Building types found along the line. If I was not mistaken there was even a fleeting glimpse of AG at one point? Colin Edited January 18, 2021 by BWsTrains 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambiedg Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 It just keeps getting better and better. Now to lob in a spanner...... Am I the only one who prefers the look of the curve from non-viewing side? Where did I put my coat............. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 19, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, lambiedg said: It just keeps getting better and better. Now to lob in a spanner...... Am I the only one who prefers the look of the curve from non-viewing side? Where did I put my coat............. Morning David. You're probably not the only one who prefers that angle. Of course, front and back are nearly identical, aside from the rear having slightly wider piers because of the curve. My model has an accentuated curve in order to fit in with the rest of the layout. Published images tend to be evenly split, East or West. I just wish I had the space to put the viaduct in the middle of the room so I could model the valley on either side. Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 19, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Right, David. Since you prefer the reverse view, and since nearly all of my pics are of the West face, here's a "treat" for you! J. Edited January 19, 2021 by Physicsman Capital letter 12 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambiedg Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) A treat indeed! I’m not really sure why I prefer the convex curve. It just pleases my eye more. Edited January 19, 2021 by lambiedg Spelling! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 19, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, lambiedg said: A treat indeed! I’m not really sure why I prefer the convex curve. It just pleases my eye more. The "reason" is probably the same as why I prefer the concave curve. Whatever that reason is! Jeff 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium lankyandy Posted January 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20, 2021 Good evening. I have started working through a single arch bridge in o gauge, and I’m just planning out stone production. Have you tried adding texture to the stones? Looking at the size of stones I will be using, I think it may be needed. just wondering if you have tried anything with any success. One thought I had was to make a version of your ‘mould’ but on a textured floor tile giving it a slightly rough surface? viaduct is looking great and planning out one small arch really starts to put into perspective just how much work is involved! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 20, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, lankyandy said: Good evening. I have started working through a single arch bridge in o gauge, and I’m just planning out stone production. Have you tried adding texture to the stones? Looking at the size of stones I will be using, I think it may be needed. just wondering if you have tried anything with any success. One thought I had was to make a version of your ‘mould’ but on a textured floor tile giving it a slightly rough surface? viaduct is looking great and planning out one small arch really starts to put into perspective just how much work is involved! Hi Andy. I haven't overtly tried to put any texture onto the stones, though a fair proportion end up with a non-smooth surface as the clay is rolled out into strips. I think your idea is the best approach - to try to put texture on at the moulding stage. Dried DAS is very brittle and can easily break apart if any roughing-up is done after the clay has set. I'm modelling at 4mm scale. For a much smaller number of 7mm blocks, as in your case, it might be worth building the jig using the floor tile as the base. A lot of my stones, representing 4 foot by 2 foot are still a bit small to show texture to scale. Irregularities might look like the stones had been in the middle of a war zone, with a 1mm "dimple" representing a 3 inch imprint in the surface. For you, in O gauge, the corresponding block would be 28 x 14mm, which is sizeable and your surface mottling might look ok. I'm pleased I've sown the seeds of an idea in your mind. Some people would suggest scribing the DAS, but I think individual blocks, if not built overscale, look much better. Biased opinion of course! Jeff 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium lankyandy Posted January 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2021 I totally agree individual looks better. As you say it’s getting the depth of the texture to look ‘right’ . Some experimentation to do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilgue Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 21/01/2021 at 09:20, lankyandy said: Have you tried adding texture to the stones? You could try dabbing the face of the stones with a toothbrush. I have seen it done in another context ( , but I think it would work well in the larger scales. Sorry, but I could not paste an unobtrusive link without bringing in the graphics. The toothbrush is at 1’15”. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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