SteamingWales Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I've recently bought a pair of Skytrex GWR Water Cranes. They are really nice and easy to assemble kits. I am however a bit underwhelmed by the look of the hose bag. Is anyone able to recommend anything that would be suitable and a bit better looking than the white metal cast 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Suggest try rolling your own with cooking foil. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: Suggest try rolling your own with cooking foil. You have probably just rocketed onto a suspect list for hard drugs use! On the same theme, rolled loo paper on a PVC coated wire as a former, secured with a wipe of dilute PVA and stripped off while wet. That too can be slightly dented before the PVA goes off to represent the way the bag collapses while hanging, and finished with poster paint. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I've used heatshrink tubing. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 Actually, I'd not throw away the cast whitemetal bags until you've painted them and weathered them and seen what they look like; they look pretty good to me! Water crane bags seem to be always modelled as if they are in use, full of water and pumped out, whereas in reality they spent most of their time in a rather sad, flaccid, state, dripping... 1 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Whereas in reality they spent most of their time in a rather sad, flaccid, state, dripping... I know that feeling 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 Me too! We used to have proper winters back in the day, not like the modern pussy winters, kids terday, don't know their born, and the bags would freeze because they were wet even with the fire devil keeping the crane arm warm, which would make the crane impossible to use until it had been attacked with fire irons, big 'ammers, and such, to break the ice that had solidified the bag sufficiently to get water into it, which froze almost instantly, and get it flexible enough to get into the tank or tender filler. They were stiff at the best of times, made of heavy rubberised canvas, and hard work to handle, and a nightmare when they were cold and wet, which was about half the year... Obviously, you couldn't put a fire devil beneath the bag, or it would burn, and as the area was usually wet from drips, spillages and leaks, the ground would be icy as well. You need a lockable coal bunker for the fire devil if you are going to have one, and a sand box for the ice. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 Heat shrink for me too... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Me too! We used to have proper winters back in the day, not like the modern pussy winters, kids terday, don't know their born, and the bags would freeze because they were wet even with the fire devil keeping the crane arm warm, which would make the crane impossible to use until it had been attacked with fire irons, big 'ammers, and such, to break the ice that had solidified the bag sufficiently to get water into it, which froze almost instantly, and get it flexible enough to get into the tank or tender filler. They were stiff at the best of times, made of heavy rubberised canvas, and hard work to handle, and a nightmare when they were cold and wet, which was about half the year... Obviously, you couldn't put a fire devil beneath the bag, or it would burn, and as the area was usually wet from drips, spillages and leaks, the ground would be icy as well. You need a lockable coal bunker for the fire devil if you are going to have one, and a sand box for the ice. You had it easy.....insert your own sentence with words like "lump of coal", "middle of the road", "paper bag" as you feel able.... Edited September 17, 2020 by Gilbert 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Nowadays we use a vinyl tape for electrical insulation - very smooth and useless for water cranes. Before vinyl however, we used a black sticky cloth type tape that was excellent. In fact, a couple of months ago I was clearing out some junk, and stripped something for its component parts, and found some inside! I managed to peel it off, and have kept it for future use. I'm thinking that something like self adhesive plasters/bandages might yield something? Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, The Johnster said: Actually, I'd not throw away the cast whitemetal bags until you've painted them and weathered them and seen what they look like; they look pretty good to me! Same here. What's wrong with them? 1 hour ago, Londontram said: 2 hours ago, The Johnster said: Whereas in reality they spent most of their time in a rather sad, flaccid, state, dripping... I know that feeling Beat me to it.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gilbert said: You had it easy.....insert your own sentence with words like "lump of coal", "middle of the road", "paper bag" as you feel able.... Actually, I did. I was born in the UK in 1952, too late for national service, in time to enjoy the benefits of National Health, post war Socialist education, peace, and the permissive society before aids. I've only myself to blame for messing my life up, I had the best chances in the entire history of the space/time continuum so far... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, stewartingram said: Nowadays we use a vinyl tape for electrical insulation - very smooth and useless for water cranes. Before vinyl however, we used a black sticky cloth type tape that was excellent. In fact, a couple of months ago I was clearing out some junk, and stripped something for its component parts, and found some inside! I managed to peel it off, and have kept it for future use. I'm thinking that something like self adhesive plasters/bandages might yield something? Stewart That stuff is still available for use on classic car wiring looms. I got given some a couple of years back that was brand new, but I haven't really tried looking where you can get it from, but suspect it would be quite easy to find... Andy G 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Actually, I did. I was born in the UK in 1952, too late for national service, in time to enjoy the benefits of National Health, post war Socialist education, peace, and the permissive society before aids. I've only myself to blame for messing my life up, I had the best chances in the entire history of the space/time continuum so far... Indeed..me too...I'm just glad I'm not one of my Grandsons..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, stewartingram said: Before vinyl however, we used a black sticky cloth type tape that was excellent. Blow me! I only read this thread to see whether anyone else remembered the proper material for the job, and you do! This looks suspiciously like it https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/382509638697?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=382509638697&targetid=4585032211933600&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398226948&mkgroupid=1302921513642151&rlsatarget=pla-4585032211933600&abcId=2145997&merchantid=87779&msclkid=ad1dd847a63314cc148f87241ba1409e Hurrah! Edited September 17, 2020 by Nearholmer 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS Peak Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 What about using a bit of Cohesive bandage? It might be a bit too course for 00 but might be worth a look 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 17/09/2020 at 21:48, Nearholmer said: Blow me! I only read this thread to see whether anyone else remembered the proper material for the job, and you do! This looks suspiciously like it https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/382509638697?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-153316-527457-8&mkcid=2&itemid=382509638697&targetid=4585032211933600&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=398226948&mkgroupid=1302921513642151&rlsatarget=pla-4585032211933600&abcId=2145997&merchantid=87779&msclkid=ad1dd847a63314cc148f87241ba1409e Hurrah! That's the stuff! I would have thought it a bit coarse for a water crane though. The material was quite smooth. It's b*** useless as insulating tape as well! The cast ones look good to me. They capture the floppy appearance of the real thing very well. Some artistic weathering would complete the job. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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