rogirbu Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Found this on eBay recently, not wanting to pay Heljan prices. I am now puzzled about what make it is. The body is all white metal and appears to be from a kit. The chassis appears to be Lima, also metal. I can find almost nothing on Cl23 kits other than Silver Fox but I understand that was a resin bodyshell. The only, possible, identifying feature is that the two rooftop vents are open - although that might have been done by the builder Any suggestions would be helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 MTK, perhaps, in which case the builder has done a very tidy job (and is probably still undergoing therapy). 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Eaton Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 00, there was one by A1 models. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 The casting around the cab doors looks too good to be MTK, although Colin could have his moments! Did Genesis get around to the Baby Deltic? Can't remember or find anything online, although it appears that company used to cast things in pewter........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I've still got mine, in the "for disposals" box. I fitted it with a Hornby 21/29 chassis. Good runner, the extra weight helps. I got it from a local swapmeet, taking something to sell (that didn't work btw), but I got a good price for it. That paid for the class 21/29 loco. The chassis went under the 23 body; the body acquired another (dummy) 21/29 chassis which I got for nothing, and I still had change. I fettled the Hornby locos into D6110/12 which I saw on delivery near Cambridge, they are still in my fleet today. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Dave Alexander made a whitemetal kit. He may have supplied motorisable bogie castings, as with his BTH Type 1. That wouldn't stop a builder preferring a Lima chassis of course... The Nim. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2020 Don't think its a Dave Alexander kit. I have one and there are some differences in the door and window castings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackedmember Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Q kits also made kits for this locomotive. Their original kits was in glass fibre/ Resin, however they also made it in their later white metal range. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2020 Looking at it I would say it is the A1 models kit. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 This is an A1 models version, another one I will never finish now I have the Heljan ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Driver Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Dave Alexander Models also used to do a Class 23. From my experience of his kits he used press studs for the bogie pivots. Repeat of previous info. Sorry didn't read the complete thread Norman Edited September 25, 2020 by Shed Driver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted September 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) The lima chassis tends to suggest A1 as that is what they recommended. here's mine, which is DCC fitted too .... Edited July 12, 2022 by RedgateModels 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2020 The position of the builders plate below the window is the key I think, so yes it does look like an A1 models kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 18 hours ago, rogirbu said: Found this on eBay recently, not wanting to pay Heljan prices. I am now puzzled about what make it is. The body is all white metal and appears to be from a kit. The chassis appears to be Lima, also metal. I can find almost nothing on Cl23 kits other than Silver Fox but I understand that was a resin bodyshell. The only, possible, identifying feature is that the two rooftop vents are open - although that might have been done by the builder Any suggestions would be helpful. Chassis is probably ex Lima 20 - that was about their only metal chassis , and the EE bogies would be correct for a 23 I had a whitemetal kit which I despaired of , believed to be Q Kits - it fitted where it touched and the bits didn't touch in a lot of places... I ended up going the Silver Fox route (second-hand kit) with a Hornby 5 pole ringfield in a cut down 29 chassis frame. Much better A decent job has been made of yours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2020 I never had a kit of a Baby Deltic, but had all ten, four plastic card home made, five cut and shut Tri-ang 37s and one Lima 40 cut and shut (best of the cut and shuts). I decided to replace the cut and shuts with some more plastic card ones. Progress is very limited owing to my modelling no longer being a ER north London loco shed but has moved to Sheffield. Not a place they were commonly seen. One day they will be finished.....one day. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Eek! I started a cut and shut as well. Copied from the Monty Wells article in Railway Modeller. I don't think I got as far as the bogies though. Just cutting up Hornby Class 37 bodies which were ten a penny at the time. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2020 18 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: I never had a kit of a Baby Deltic, I take issue with you on that statement, you had sheets of plastic card and bags of plastic strip! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: I take issue with you on that statement, you had sheets of plastic card and bags of plastic strip! Mike. OK Mike They were Slaters Flat Pack Kits. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogirbu Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Thanks for all your comments. It looks like the consenus is A1 kits. Clive - I admire your dedication in modelling all 10. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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