jhock Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I have been reading a couple of articles on recent trials of Scottish timber trains, they where using West Coast Railways class 37s and what looked like BTA bogie bolster wagons. Does anyone have any further information of this trial? James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 A bit more research and I found this. https://www.logisticsbusiness.com/transport-distribution/railfreight/victa-railfreight-trials-timber-movement-in-scotland/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Search for recent pics of 37516 and 37669 on flickr.com Here's one: Edited September 27, 2020 by newbryford 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted September 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, newbryford said: Search for recent pics of 37516 and 37669 on flickr.com Here's one: A lovely picture, but I must say I find the West Coast livery rather dismal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Fascinating revival. Presumably being done as cheaply as possible as the load has low value. Although refurbished the basis of the wagons is older than the locos! They appear to be the BTA conversions of the BDA in turn conversions of BDOs from the early 1950s. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bdalever/e392ec393 Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 I was looking the wagons, easy enough conversion. Maybe on the Cambrian kits version as a basis. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Andy Kirkham said: A lovely picture, but I must say I find the West Coast livery rather dismal. Far smarter than the blue era? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted September 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2020 Hi all, Already discussed on here... I'm still trying to find out the sizes for the goalposts. All I know is the steel appears to be 150m by180mm size and the width is the same as the wagon! Thanks Phil H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted September 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, jhock said: I was looking the wagons, easy enough conversion. Maybe on the Cambrian kits version as a basis. Hi there, At first look the conversion appears easy - but it's not that simple. If you check out the photos from Arran the side rail of the BTA is at a lower height whereas the kit and RTR models have the full height side at the same top level as the wagon end panel. The design of the kit and RTR models make lowering this height difficult. Thanks Phil H Edited September 28, 2020 by Scottish Modeller Can't find link to Arran's photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Scottish Modeller said: Hi there, At first look the conversion appears easy - but it's not that simple. If yoou check oout the photos fropm Arran the side rail of the BTA is ata lower height whereas the kit and RTR models have the full height side at the same top level as the wagon end panel. The design of the kit and RTR models make lowering this height difficult. Thanks Phil H Thanks Phil. In which case I will pick up one of the Cambrian kits, a far cheaper option should it prove too difficult. James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) I also found this: https://youtu.be/nDWag_KiOZM Edited September 28, 2020 by jhock Embedded video 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 If it becomes a regular thing they may need wagons that can take a bit more payload ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, rob D2 said: If it becomes a regular thing they may need wagons that can take a bit more payload ! I wonder why they only put two stacks on each wagon? There looked to be space for more.. I suppose it could be to ensure the train left 'right-time' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Three class 37s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Fat Controller said: I wonder why they only put two stacks on each wagon? There looked to be space for more.. I suppose it could be to ensure the train left 'right-time' There are only 2 sets of bolsters on those wagons. It is only a trial so my guess is they have taken what is available and cheap to prove the concept. As for the 3 locomotives, I can only assume it is incase 1 fails? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfreight1998 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Gordon A said: Three class 37s? One was left at Inverness as a spare, and was used to replace one of the others that failed further north later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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