Hattons Precision Baseboards

['CHARD]

2 hours ago, classy52 said:

 18'x6' shed which ...  will allow me to get a 16'x5' modular baseboard from Hattons.

 

 

You are Lowry's life model, and I claim my ten pounds 

[classy52]

1 hour ago, 'CHARD said:

 

You are Lowry's life model, and I claim my ten pounds 

 

Sorry don't get it?...dare I ask 

['CHARD]

1 minute ago, classy52 said:

 

Sorry don't get it?...dare I ask 

 

Of course!  Your shed (18 x 6 feet) and layout (16 x 5 feet) dimensions allow you one foot to squeeze yourself alongside.  LS Lowry was renowned for painting matchstick (or 'matchstalk') men.  Thus I figured you were his life model!

[classy52]

56 minutes ago, 'CHARD said:

 

Of course!  Your shed (18 x 6 feet) and layout (16 x 5 feet) dimensions allow you one foot to squeeze yourself alongside.  LS Lowry was renowned for painting matchstick (or 'matchstalk') men.  Thus I figured you were his life model!

 

Yeah that's funny, I actually Googled your reference to Lowry and saw something about matchstick men & painting thus yes know what you mean now 

I've made adjustments to my plan hence why I queried about 4'x1' boards so one side will be 16' long x 2' foot wide and the other side 16' long' x1' wide connected by 2' foot boards at each end thus leaving me about 2' feet down the middle which should be enough I hope, I'm trying to squeeze the most I can into the shed based on its size & internal dimensions with the Hattons baseboards thus yeah it will be cozy.

The missus won't let me have the loft!...and the spare room is too small & square for a decent long layout.

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

Another thought, how about some quadrant/hexagonal/octagonal boards for those who like to go round the bend, say at setrack/3'/4' centre line radius, then a roundy round can be built?

 

Mike.

['CHARD]

2 hours ago, classy52 said:

 

I've made adjustments to my plan hence why I queried about 4'x1' boards so one side will be 16' long x 2' foot wide and the other side 16' long' x1' wide connected by 2' foot boards at each end thus leaving me about 2' feet down the middle which should be enough I hope, I'm trying to squeeze the most I can into the shed based on its size & internal dimensions with the Hattons baseboards thus yeah it will be cozy.

 

I did see that post and was very much aligned to your way of thinking.  Got an existing garage plus potential extension in view and I am wrangling daily how to shoehorn a folded figure of eight into it to the best effect.

[newbryford]

1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Another thought, how about some quadrant/hexagonal/octagonal boards for those who like to go round the bend, say at setrack/3'/4' centre line radius, then a roundy round can be built?

 

Mike.

 

They have said via the live video that they are doing corner boards to create L shapes - so your wish may become true.

[truffy]

On 01/10/2020 at 00:25, Clearwater said:

Ikea furniture can get a lot of criticism but most of their items are incredibly well designed so as to only go together one way, for example with offset screws that allow even the most hamfisted of is to realise how you put it together,  have these boards been designed with those type of ideas in mind and has the assembly been road tested with right handers with three left thumbs who normally put the second nail through their finger?

 

David

I think my wife could prove you wrong there, David. She’s managed to build not one but two IKEA bookcases with the integral shelf upside down, so the hidden fixings are proudly on display. 

[DougN]

This is a fantastic development for the uk. I can see the advantages for people with out the skills or time or tools to build a layout. I don't think they can be exported to Australia or NZ due to our strict quarantine arrangements for timber products. Also the transport costs would be prohibitively expensive. I think a version of Tim Horns 1ft x4ft with integral backscene and fascia would be a great development of this idea as it will encourage people to try other gauges, prototypes or scales. 

 

As SRman said... but as a friend I built all of his layout framing over a weekend! So I don't think I need the kits i have to applaud hattons for this initiative! 

[woodenhead]

1 hour ago, DougN said:

This is a fantastic development for the uk. I can see the advantages for people with out the skills or time or tools to build a layout. I don't think they can be exported to Australia or NZ due to our strict quarantine arrangements for timber products. Also the transport costs would be prohibitively expensive. I think a version of Tim Horns 1ft x4ft with integral backscene and fascia would be a great development of this idea as it will encourage people to try other gauges, prototypes or scales. 

 

As SRman said... but as a friend I built all of his layout framing over a weekend! So I don't think I need the kits i have to applaud hattons for this initiative! 

There are backscenes available, I think Hattons have gone very modular so perhaps later there will be some fascia modules to bolt on to the front.

[johnofwessex]

What about..............

 

1. 'open top' baseboards and options on leg heights so you can lay your own trackbed with ground falling away

2. Some 'one foot' boards to allow for maximum flexibility

[johnofwessex]

In some ways I am suprised that 'The Furniture Trade' has never thought of producing these as there must be a lot of people - war gamers, military modellers, arts & crafts people etc who could have used some sort of modular system like this

[Clearwater]

12 hours ago, truffy said:

I think my wife could prove you wrong there, David. She’s managed to build not one but two IKEA bookcases with the integral shelf upside down, so the hidden fixings are proudly on display. 

Ha!  I’ve found that usually that it’s quite difficult to do that with the offsets and design.  She must be truly talented and no doubt it is still somehow your fault!

[Roy Langridge]

 

On 02/10/2020 at 18:44, 'CHARD said:

 

LS Lowry was renowned for painting matchstick (or 'matchstalk') men.  Thus I figured you were his life model!

 

Don't forget the Matchstalk Cats and Dogs, and the kids on the corner of the street that were sparking clogs 

 

Showing my age now... And for those that aren't:

 

Roy 

[Hattons Dave]

On 03/10/2020 at 12:33, johnofwessex said:

What about..............

 

2. Some 'one foot' boards to allow for maximum flexibility

 

Hi John,

As well as the 4ft x 1ft boards, we're also producing boards in the following sizes to allow for greater flexibility:

• 2ft x 2ft
• 2ft x 1ft
• 1ft x 1ft

These will be available later this year / in early 2021 - check out the link below to see the full range:

Hattons Precision Baseboards - Baseboard alternative sizes

Cheers,

Dave

[HillsideDepot]

I started reading this thread thinking "interesting development, but not sure its for me". Then I watched the video and saw the level of thought that has gone into these, and the possibilities and hints at future developments, and am now firmly thinking "one to watch". 

 

Clearly they are proving popular overseas, but I appreciate the various hurdles to delivering. Just as a thought, could the designs be licensed to local specialist producers, who use the CAD and get bulk supplies of the hardware?  It probably couldn't cover everywhere, but might be possible for the countries with greatest demand. It might be as impractical as physically sending them from Widnes, for all I know, but the thought occurred.

[Enterprisingwestern]

24 minutes ago, HillsideDepot said:

I started reading this thread thinking "interesting development, but not sure its for me". Then I watched the video and saw the level of thought that has gone into these, and the possibilities and hints at future developments, and am now firmly thinking "one to watch". 

 

Clearly they are proving popular overseas, but I appreciate the various hurdles to delivering. Just as a thought, could the designs be licensed to local specialist producers, who use the CAD and get bulk supplies of the hardware?  It probably couldn't cover everywhere, but might be possible for the countries with greatest demand. It might be as impractical as physically sending them from Widnes, for all I know, but the thought occurred.

 

I wouldn't trust having these made in Spain, real tree wood doesn't exist here, unless I import from the UK, and then I might as well import ready cut boards!

 

Mike.

[Hattons Dave]

Hi all,

We've had lots of questions regarding the Precision Baseboards since their announcement, and we'll be broadcasting two additional livestreams next week:

• Monday 19th 09:30 BST - Live Q&A and FAQ
• Friday 23rd 14:30 BST - Live SkillsCast session showing the (very small!) range of skills you'll need to put the boards together.

Check them both out via the link below:

Hattons Livestream Schedule

 

Cheers,

Dave

[pharrc20]

Have I missed something as the MDF option has disappeared from the website page? I am very interested in these baseboard tops certainly for the different sizes 4x1', 4x2' and 2x1' for an industrial layout I had been planning. 

Cheers Paul

[Roy Langridge]

16 hours ago, pharrc20 said:

Have I missed something as the MDF option has disappeared from the website page? I am very interested in these baseboard tops certainly for the different sizes 4x1', 4x2' and 2x1' for an industrial layout I had been planning. 

Cheers Paul

 

Same for me, although a Google of the part number does give links that still allow an order - although I would not be confident that there is not a problem with supply:

 

MDF 4 x 2

 

Obviously not on the page for a reason.

 

Roy

 

Edited November 23, 2020 by Roy Langridge

[norman]

Oh dear, so all those who have pre-ordered will by now have heard that the base board project is ended - No product available what a pity.  My pal who ordered is really unimpressed to say the least.  But I'm betting that there will be a relaunch at a later date with higher prices - watch this space!

Norman

[JohnR]

That is such a shame, as it looked very innovative for a model shop to be doing this on this scale.

[classy52]

Here's a link to their webpage communication in regards to this;

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/newsdetail.aspx?id=900&utm_source=rmweb&utm_medium=hatdave&utm_campaign=mar-0729-hattonsbaseboardslaunch

 

...at least they're honest and didn't end up selling sub-standard goods.

[MarkSG]

This is something where the smaller suppliers, such as Tim Horn and Grainge & Hodder, have the advantage as they, presumably, have an existing relationship with a local supplier of wood and can take the time to ensure that they are getting the right quality every time. But that doesn't scale up to the mass market level that Hattons will have been hoping to sell at. Having to rely on high-volume wholesalers of wood does somewhat leave you at their mercy when it comes to quality.

[maq1988]

Sadly better to disappoint with the pre-orders being cancelled than having to deal with substandard items going to customers and risking return / knock to reputation.

 

Presumably Hattons will have the CAD work for these boards should a supplier be found in the future.