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1 hour ago, DavidMcKenzie said:

One question (sorry I really am a beginner with all this), when you talk about overlap what exactly is that? 

We all had to start at the beginning at some point, no apology needed.

It’s a safety margin beyond a signal in case something goes a bit wrong with the braking.  Before a train can run towards a signal the overlap has to be clear of other trains and of routes that they are taking.

Paul.

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On 13/04/2021 at 18:57, 5BarVT said:

We all had to start at the beginning at some point, no apology needed.

It’s a safety margin beyond a signal in case something goes a bit wrong with the braking.  Before a train can run towards a signal the overlap has to be clear of other trains and of routes that they are taking.

Paul.

 

Thanks for that Paul, all fascinating information for someone with very little knowledge about these things. 

 

All the best,

Dave

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Managed to sneak an hour of modelling time last night and got a bit more done on the station roof mock up. Bringing the roof down a bit has done a much better job of hiding the obvious that the trains disappear into the fiddle yard just after the roof starts. I found it hard to find an angle where you could look through and see into the off scene area other than looking directly down the rail. 

 

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All the best,

Dave

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11 minutes ago, DavidMcKenzie said:

Managed to sneak an hour of modelling time last night and got a bit more done on the station roof mock up. Bringing the roof down a bit has done a much better job of hiding the obvious that the trains disappear into the fiddle yard just after the roof starts. I found it hard to find an angle where you could look through and see into the off scenic area other than looking directly down the rail. 

 

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All the best,

Dave

 

That's looking really good David and very effective scenic break.

 

Best regards,

 

Jeremy

 

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Some base colour went onto the station roof this afternoon. It still needs weathering and then 'planting' properly into the platforms, but the colour starts to bring it to life a little. 

 

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All the best,

Dave

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If anyone is knowledgeable enough to let me know if there is anything significant about the difference between the two 'legs' of the OHLE I would be very interested. Was one or other used in only specific situations? I had a mix of both on my previous layout without ever really even noticing that they were different :lol:

 

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Many thanks,

Dave 

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Hi Dave,

Looking good - as you say a real WCML feel to things.  In answer to your OHL query, @Clive Mortimore is probably the chap to ask as he is very knowledgable on the subject.

 

Rich

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The back two lines got the first steps of weathering and detailing. The difference to the lines in the foreground is shown in the picture below. Hopefully once the are all weathered it won't look like it has snowed anymore :rolleyes:.

 

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The points especially came alive with a bit of detailing and weathering. 

 

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Unfortunately I ran out of glue and part of detailing was fixing up any bits of gravel that were out of place and I'd hoped to be sticking down a few weeds, bushes and lineside greenery. But that will have to wait now. Whilst waiting for more glue to arrive worked started on some little lineside detailing like cables, point motors, AWS ramps etc. 

 

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Could anyone help me here? Are these two points motors realistically positioned in the center of the following photo? One looks very close to the platform (although it might be too late to fix that now) and the other looks wrong "between" the two slow lines. I don't know why but I always think of them as being on the "outside" of a twin line section. 

 

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All the best,

Dave

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56 minutes ago, DavidMcKenzie said:

Could anyone help me here? Are these two points motors realistically positioned in the center of the following photo? One looks very close to the platform (although it might be too late to fix that now) and the other looks wrong "between" the two slow lines. I don't know why but I always think of them as being on the "outside" of a twin line section. 

 

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All the best,

Dave

 

Looks fine to me David.  Whats your actual problem with it? How you perceive it should be, or does something look 'actually' wrong to you?

 

Rich

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20 hours ago, DavidMcKenzie said:

Could anyone help me here? Are these two points motors realistically positioned in the center of the following photo? One looks very close to the platform (although it might be too late to fix that now) and the other looks wrong "between" the two slow lines. I don't know why but I always think of them as being on the "outside" of a twin line section. 

On the ‘outside’ if you can (a lot safer in the old days, only needs Possession of one line for maintenance these days).  There wouldn’t usually be room for a machine between the track and the platform so that one would likely be between the lines.

Or just leave them and keep quiet!

Paul.

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On 19/05/2021 at 22:07, MarshLane said:

 

Looks fine to me David.  Whats your actual problem with it? How you perceive it should be, or does something look 'actually' wrong to you?

 

Rich

It is only my perception that felt wrong. I have no idea really and all of my knowledge has come from the internet which is always dangerous:rolleyes:. I will never get it perfect, it's only a model. But I would like to get everything so it looks like a plausible background and a nice backdrop for the trains. If there are too many things that are clearly wrong to a knowledgeable eye it might distract from the main thing which is the trains. 

On 20/05/2021 at 12:45, cornish trains jez said:

Looking good David. The back wall is really effective.

 

 

Thanks Jeremy, it's done exactly the job I wanted. It looks plausible without (hopefully) taking too much attention away from the foreground once it's finished. 

On 20/05/2021 at 17:55, 5BarVT said:

On the ‘outside’ if you can (a lot safer in the old days, only needs Possession of one line for maintenance these days).  There wouldn’t usually be room for a machine between the track and the platform so that one would likely be between the lines.

Or just leave them and keep quiet!

Paul.

Thanks Paul, that is very helpful. I will switch them over (they are not glued down yet) and now I can stop looking at them wondering if they are in the right place or not:).

 

All he best,

Dave 

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Small update, some more little details have been added.

 

relay cabinets:

 

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The last of the point motors went in and the platform top surfaces got dulled down and blended into the rest. 

 

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Still plenty to do. I just starting wondering what's next and in a about 30secs I managed to make the list below and realized that's probably going to keep my quiet for a long while:boast::lol::

 

Detailing the platform top surfaces (drains, concrete patches and yellow + white lines)

 

Finishing the track weathering and detailing

 

Getting the tunnel mouths stuck down and blended in

Getting some weeds and grass tufts down

 

Weathering the lamp posts below without making them look pink will be a good challenge as well. The picture at the bottom does show them to be 'pink' but I am sure that this is something that could very quickly look outrageously bad if I get it wrong :scratchhead:

 

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All the best,

Dave 

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Your layout coming along nicely did you sort your masts the taller one is ground mounted shorter one platform mounted the picture on my thread I put the ground one on the platform no wonder it looked tall I finally finished mine they are so fidderley but look alright.

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14 hours ago, spenc said:

Your layout coming along nicely did you sort your masts the taller one is ground mounted shorter one platform mounted the picture on my thread I put the ground one on the platform no wonder it looked tall I finally finished mine they are so fidderley but look alright.

 

Hi Dave/Spenc,

 

That's not strictly true, some of the gantries have the catenary wire running above the gantry, others have the catenary wire below the gantry; your photo has one of each by the look of it. Obviously it's the contact wire height that determines whether it should be ground or platform mounted. I'm no expert, but I have a set of Clive Mortimore's OHLE gantry drawings, and comparing these to "WCML 1980" Google search image results seems to indicate they were more specific to geographical locations. That said, around a station throat where there are anchors, tensioners etc there appears to be a mish-mash of gantry styles depending on the loads they are taking.

 

Clear as mud!

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Very nice Dave,

Really looks good, and I think you 'stopped' at the right point, personally!

 

Rich

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