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I'll see what Peter Clark comes up with then if no luck I'll drop PRMRP a line.  I do see their kit does a 33/0 or 33/1 but obviously it isn't clear whether the 33/1 bits are on a separte sprue or you need half the kit for the bits.

 

I have no specific reason to model a 33/1 I just thought it might be a little different from all the other Heljan 33's that run in 'as is' condition on layouts all over the country.

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I'll have a look through the class 27 kit over the next week for you too cromptonnut. It is a generic 26/27 kit but you never know, there may be a set of bagpipes in the extensive lot of whitemetal castings.

 

It's not with me at the moment, so it'll be just after new year when I can check for you.

 

Cheers.

 

Sean.

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I wonder if the class 26 experts among us could help please?

 

I note that the Heljan class 26 has the nose end doors plated over, is this correct for the green liveried version?  Does anyone know when did they started to get plated over. I see Tower models have 3 left and l m tempted, but suspect its not up to the same standard as the latest models like the 25/3 of the Peak. If anyone has any photos of theirs they would be prepared to post l d be most grateful.

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Bob C

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On 22/06/2019 at 19:49, Blobrick said:

I wonder if the class 26 experts among us could help please?

 

I note that the Heljan class 26 has the nose end doors plated over, is this correct for the green liveried version?  Does anyone know when did they started to get plated over. I see Tower models have 3 left and l m tempted, but suspect its not up to the same standard as the latest models like the 25/3 of the Peak. If anyone has any photos of theirs they would be prepared to post l d be most grateful.

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Bob C

I profess no expertise, however if you mean the HJ2670 class 26/1 (retaining tablet recesses but end door plated over), some did run in green with small yellow panels in that condition in the late 1960s but I don't think it was a terribly common combination. I don't know the date when plating over began, but my best guess is that it would have been about 1968.  I believe the doors were welded shut some years before being plated over, but all the 1967 photos I found in a quick internet search showed the doors still in place, whereas by 1969 several were plated over (but increasingly also blue or green/FYE). Here is a link to a picture of D5333 at Waverley in 1969:

 

D5333,D5128,Edinburgh Waverley

 

 

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Nice looking model I think, ok I've changed the discs for JLTRT cast ones, moved the springs in under the bogies and added the headlights but that's all.

 

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On 07/07/2019 at 23:07, 64F said:

I profess no expertise, however if you mean the HJ2670 class 26/1 (retaining tablet recesses but end door plated over), some did run in green with small yellow panels in that condition in the late 1960s but I don't think it was a terribly common combination. I don't know the date when plating over began, but my best guess is that it would have been about 1968.  I believe the doors were welded shut some years before being plated over, but all the 1967 photos I found in a quick internet search showed the doors still in place, whereas by 1969 several were plated over (but increasingly also blue or green/FYE). Here is a link to a picture of D5333 at Waverley in 1969:

 

D5333,D5128,Edinburgh Waverley

 

 

Hi 64F

 

Thank you for replying, your information confirms what l ve found so far, sounds like  unless l wish to model a preserved loco, the green Heljan loco is going to be no good to me

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On 08/07/2019 at 16:26, brian daniels said:

Nice looking model I think, ok I've changed the discs for JLTRT cast ones, moved the springs in under the bogies and added the headlights but that's all.

 

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Hi Brian

 

Thank you for taking the time to post the two photos. You are far to modest, you ve done a cracking job and really brought the model to life. Weathering is a subtle art, and as in this case, really brings the subject to life

 

Thank

 

Bob C 

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Nice 33's on the Heljan stand at the modern image show Rawtenstall. 2-11-19.

 

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On 03/11/2019 at 08:24, Dan Bennett said:

Is the model of 33008 in green an exclusive for one of the retailers? Can’t find it advertised anywhere

I asked Ben, he said it is a just added standard issue 

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Also was the Blue weathered 33 their attempt at weathering which didn't look too bad?

I understood that was to be a general release too?

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Hoorah - this 33 does not have the extra (incorrect) roof panel which appears on their second attempt of a 33/0 in post silencer guise on their OO model.

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Final 2020 O gauge 33 line up confirmed from the new catalogue 

 

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Also a photo of 33012. Ben confirmed this is the actual factory weathering

 

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Much obliged.

I have only seen 33008 listed on Hattons website, but I guess others should update soon

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13 hours ago, AeBor said:

Much obliged.

I have only seen 33008 listed on Hattons website, but I guess others should update soon

That’s because I got them to contact Ben at Heljan as they didn’t know about it, so I could pre order it, and now my wife knows because she asked what I was typing so now I am in the dog house lol 

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Many thanks 47606odin.

I think I will do the same with Rails as this is where I am likely to purchase these from being nearest to me.

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Just had an email from Hattons that 3396 (unnumbered BR blue) is expected in stock ready for delivery Monday 27th Jan.

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My Dutch liveried 33 arrived this morning - all well out of the box, nothing missing or fallen off. Will give it a good blow at the Club this afternoon and then look inside the body later to check space availability for speakers - the so called instruction sheet says "To convert your class 33 model into DCC, simply remove the PCB and replace it with your chosen O Gauge decoder. No need to cut or do anything else to convert your model into DCC" we shall see!

 

regards

 

Mike

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34 minutes ago, Ressaldar said:

My Dutch liveried 33 arrived this morning - all well out of the box, nothing missing or fallen off. Will give it a good blow at the Club this afternoon and then look inside the body later to check space availability for speakers - the so called instruction sheet says "To convert your class 33 model into DCC, simply remove the PCB and replace it with your chosen O Gauge decoder. No need to cut or do anything else to convert your model into DCC" we shall see!

 

regards

 

Mike

 

Can I ask where from? Don't seem to have appeared on any websites yet.

 

Edit: ok forget that, they've started to appear now!

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5 hours ago, admiles said:

 

Can I ask where from? Don't seem to have appeared on any websites yet.

 

Edit: ok forget that, they've started to appear now!

 

Hi admiles,

 

I ordered mine from Antics yesterday @ 09.05 and it was delivered today  @ 10.30, seen here running on the Wirral OGG layout Wirral Parkway this afternoon, pulling 29 wagons, starting on the curve and pulled away on less than 5 volts.

 

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will be getting the body off tomorrow to see inside and then decide on speakers to go with a Zimo MX699KS

 

regards

 

Mike

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14 hours ago, Ressaldar said:

and a short video

 

 

 

regards

 

Mike

 

That runs a treat Mike.  I really need to get off the fence and order one. Just a case of which one!

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Notice from Hattons, my pair is shipped today

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as requested, herewith pictures with the lid off - the usual 4 screws outboard of the bogie swivel bracket and thankfully, no prizzing out of the bodywork, it just lifts off
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first glance reveals neat and tidy work, but then you notice that NMRA wiring standards are out of the window - so much for the signs of progress on this with the Class 50
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and what appears to be a reversion of the right hand bogie being wired into the left hand side of the PCB as in the Class 50 which resulted no need to extend any wires to suit the Zimo decoder.
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close up of the PCB with no visible concerns as to which wire goes where
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looks like a standard Heljan mtor and gearbox.
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the PCB lifted to reveal a space for a speaker or two - 50mm x 40mm and a hole on the left hand side for wires to go to the fual tank speaker void which is 55mm x 45mm. The big downside is that Heljan have reverted to the old fixing spacing arrangement and not provided the reversible strips with alternative spacings for the decoder board to fix onto again as in the Class 50. I will fit a carrier plate for the decoder and hope that not too much 'milling' will be required to allow clearance for the new fixing bolts etc.

Now that I know what space I have for speakers, an order to YouChoos seems on the cards.

More postings next week.

regards

Mike

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