White Coal Wagons 1970's

[johnw1]

In the attached photo the 7th wagon (a 21 ton coal hopper) appears to be "painted" white. I do not remember white coal wagons. Anyone know the background to this or is just a "one off" where someone has made some grey go further by adding some white.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/18786313792/

[Fat Controller]

I think it's just a light grey one with the sun shining on it. Unusually, the solebar seems to be the same colour as the body.

[Alex TM]

Hi there,

 

When I saw the thread title I thought it may be a 16-tonner that had been painted with too thin a coat of paint, and had bleached in the daylight.  On looking at the photo, that really does look to be white.  I had a quick look at the colour photos in a couple of my books, but nothing that light.  I'm now curious.

 

Regards,

 

Alex.

[caradoc]

Looks to me to be light grey, with its 'lightness' emphasised by the other wagons in the train, and the general gloomy surroundings.

 

[Wickham Green too]

3 hours ago, Alex TM said:

When I saw the thread title I thought it may be a 16-tonner ..........

There was ONE batch of 16-tonners built with alloy bodies which would have looked white if - as I presume they were - they were left unpainted .......................................... unfortunately this is obviously NOT one of those camera-shy beasts.

[The Johnster]

Wagon paintshop grey varied quite a bit and photo taken with an automatic light reading for the general scene, where this particular wagon is picked out by very bright sunlight and has thus been overexposed would produce this result.  It's grey, the normal colour for a 21t unfitted hopper.

 

Unpainted aluminium needs overexposing to look white in a photo as well; look at the 'finish' of unpainted LUL stock, a matt light grey begging for graffiti.

[Flood]

Some of the late build 24.5 ton hoppers had very light grey repaints from the late '70s. There's no reason why some 21 ton hoppers did not get the same treatment.

From Paul Bartlett's site:

https://zenfolio.page.link/NyqNn

 

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

Could have been on the chalk circuit recently?

 

Mike.

[Tim V]

Photo looks like it has been over-sharpened in post processing. I wouldn't rely on the reproduction on this example.

[eastwestdivide]

On 07/10/2020 at 19:23, Tim V said:

Photo looks like it has been over-sharpened in post processing. I wouldn't rely on the reproduction on this example.

Yes, also look at the whiteness of those loose sleepers on the left

[hmrspaul]

On 07/10/2020 at 18:14, Flood said:

Some of the late build 24.5 ton hoppers had very light grey repaints from the late '70s. There's no reason why some 21 ton hoppers did not get the same treatment.

From Paul Bartlett's site:

https://zenfolio.page.link/NyqNn

 

Yes I also have several near white 21t hoppers, but they don't have the grey solebar (that I could find). But other wagons do have the grey solebar - rebodied mineral as an example https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/efe7fab4  and BR grey was often near white - as with the MDO rebodies where the white end door stripe shows up against a slightly darker body colour https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/mdorebuiltrenumber/e15debae9

BR grey is a very variable colour, as was the wagon red. 

 

Paul