BECMAYE Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Hi, I watched the Heljan update video yesterday. It was very informative and helpful. The O gauge Class 2251 'Collett Goods' 0-6-0 was not mentioned - is there any update/news on the progress for this loco? Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just wondering the same thing, as it is something I would be interested in buying. Cheers, Ade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 From Tower Models’ website: “due for release early 2021”. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Have they even shown any CADs yet? I may have missed them. They announced the 56 CADs were signed off this time last year, to give an indication. Edited October 25, 2020 by Hal Nail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 I have not seen one as yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I presume 2022 is more realistic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted December 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) No mention of the 2251 on Tower Models' updated Heljan release schedule yesterday Edited December 16, 2020 by GWR57xx screen shot added for more detail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, GWR57xx said: No mention of the 2251 on Tower Models' updated Heljan release schedule yesterday Given the impact Covid has had and the fact all the new stuff is taking c3 years anyway, some time after that list in 2023 wouldn't be entirely surprising. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I take it there is no point holding ones breath on this one ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BECMAYE Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Does anyone know of any news about these? Whenever I have watched a virtual show video update from Heljan there has been no mention of these at all. It seems like Heljan are just focusing on the diesels in the O gauge market - I guess that is understandable if that is where the market is? Just would really like one of these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, BECMAYE said: It seems like Heljan are just focusing on the diesels in the O gauge market - I guess that is understandable if that is where the market is? The mogul still hasn't sold out yet, the prairie tanks were discounted and there are literally hundreds of Hattons pacifics unsold, so I'm slightly surprised they are contemplating any further steam locos to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted June 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2021 Heljan have suspended work on this according to the update posted today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 10:15, Hal Nail said: The mogul still hasn't sold out yet, the prairie tanks were discounted and there are literally hundreds of Hattons pacifics unsold, so I'm slightly surprised they are contemplating any further steam locos to be honest. Many people, particularly those of my age tend to model what they saw when in their teens or early 20's which fort many of us means blue diesel which is why I think there remains strong demand for these models and perhaps less so for steam although GWR always seemed to sell perhaps less so for O gauge. Of course the eye watering prices may have something to do with it. I see Heljan have notified an increase on the 73 and its getting to the point where we are talking silly money. Particularly as Dapol seem to be able to make the 66, a large Co-Co, for half the price of the 73 despite recent increases. Paul R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidmouth Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I would imagine the critical response to the Prairie and Mogul may not have enthused them to continue either . Shame as a 2251 would have been perfect for me 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 hours ago, pwr said: Many people, particularly those of my age tend to model what they saw when in their teens or early 20's which fort many of us means blue diesel which is why I think there remains strong demand for these models and perhaps less so for steam although GWR always seemed to sell perhaps less so for O gauge. Of course the eye watering prices may have something to do with it. I see Heljan have notified an increase on the 73 and its getting to the point where we are talking silly money. Particularly as Dapol seem to be able to make the 66, a large Co-Co, for half the price of the 73 despite recent increases. Paul R One thing I've noticed about Heljan O gauge stock is that it nearly always seems to end up being heavily discounted. If I was thinking of buying a Heljan loco I'd wait to see to how well it sells before splashing out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 16 hours ago, montyburns56 said: One thing I've noticed about Heljan O gauge stock is that it nearly always seems to end up being heavily discounted. If I was thinking of buying a Heljan loco I'd wait to see to how well it sells before splashing out. True in relation to the steam locos, which have a mixed reputation shall we say for their running qualities, but the diesels seem to sell far better, and run better too. Try finding a discounted o gauge 25 anywhere, whereas there are big savings on the mogul and prarie to be found. Personally, id prefer Dapol to do the 2251. Their lightweight o gauge steam are all lovely runners. The Heljan chassis are unnecessarily heavy and powerful, how many of us have the space for 12 coach trains in o? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Would be nice to have a ready-to-run 0-6-0 tender loco of some sort. Wasn't it the most common wheel arrangement in the UK? (CJL) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted June 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Ghost of IKB said: Personally, id prefer Dapol to do the 2251. I really cant see anyone else tooling the same tender though and the ability to reuse that for other prototypes did seem to be part of the mitigation for the extra cost over a tank loco. Edited June 25, 2021 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 hours ago, The Ghost of IKB said: True in relation to the steam locos, which have a mixed reputation shall we say for their running qualities, but the diesels seem to sell far better, and run better too. Try finding a discounted o gauge 25 anywhere, whereas there are big savings on the mogul and prarie to be found. Personally, id prefer Dapol to do the 2251. Their lightweight o gauge steam are all lovely runners. The Heljan chassis are unnecessarily heavy and powerful, how many of us have the space for 12 coach trains in o? You are right there - I've been looking for a blue 25/1 - so far nothing. And some of the second hand prices I have seen are more expensive that discounted new stock with other retailers. Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Although not a GWR chap, it is a shame that the project has been cancelled. The 2251 is ideal for the smaller layouts that so many people have. A Pacific is a bit big for a branchline. How many people have large garden layouts anyway? I also find Heljan to be very expensive so, yes, waiting for a discount is the right way to go (that is how I got my 20). John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I'm just glad they stuck with Lyn long enough to actually get models onto a ship given the faff with the Manning Wardles. I was starting to worry they'd can them before I'd completed my L&B stud! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 13:15, dibber25 said: Would be nice to have a ready-to-run 0-6-0 tender loco of some sort. Wasn't it the most common wheel arrangement in the UK? Would love to see a Q1. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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