nicktamarensis Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 If the style of the platform bench has been identified correctly this is somewhere on the former NBR system - but where? Does anyone have any info on this location and the coach itself? The location may be somewhere in the Highlands rather than the Borders area if the mountain in the background is anything to go by. Many thanks. Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) There has been discussion of camping coach locations in the Hattons Genesis topic. The Wikipedia article seems to provide comprehensive information for at least some periods. According to this, 57 Pullmans were converted in the early 60s having been displaced from Kent Coast services on electrification; 12 of these went to the Scottish Region. Someone must have a list of allocations. Edited October 12, 2020 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Thanks Stephen. I'll keep my fingers crossed. If of any help, I found a 1957 listing in another thread for ScR CC locations - but whether any of these would have included the later arrival of the Pullmans is another matter.... 6-Berth coaches: Aboyne, Aberdour, Aberfeldy, Aberlady, Appin, Arisaig, Benderloch, Burghead, Carnoustie, Carr Bridge, Eddleston, Elie, Fairlie High, Fortrose, Glenfinnan, Gullane, Kentallen, Kingussie, Loch Awe, Lochmaben, Lundin Links, Monifieth, Morar, Plockton, Portressie, St Combs, St Monance, Strathyre, Strome Ferry, Tyndrum Lower, West Kilbride Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Camping Coach 44 - ex "Savona" - was converted in 1961 and - according to Pullman Profile No.5 - was at Corpach from '61 to'64 .......... in which case the land in the background doesn't come any higher in these islands. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Many thanks Wickham Green too - that clinches it. Not having the Profile No. 5 data may I ask whether you can furnish Savona's the build date, operational use and eventual fate? Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Try the Pullman Car History Digests here. Also lots of information in the newsletter PDFs. https://sremg.org.uk/coach/coupe/index.html Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Thanks very much Jason. I'll have a trawl.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 She was built as a Parlour Car in 1910 ( Birmingham C.& .W.) , "was partly wrecked whilst stationary on the Dover Admiralty Pier Extension by heavy seas" (!) in October 1911, rebuilt as a Kitchen Car in January 1924 and ended up as Camping Coach in '61. Profile 5 gives no further details between those dates so presumably Savona led a relatively uneventful life trundling round the Southern. ( This volume has a specific chapter on S.E.C.R. services 1910-14 and details of all Camping Coach conversions in an appendix ...... hopefully more details will emerge in a future volume.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Camping Coach 44 - ex "Savona" - was converted in 1961 and - according to Pullman Profile No.5 - was at Corpach from '61 to'64 .......... in which case the land in the background doesn't come any higher in these islands. photo on Ernie Brack's Flickr, taken at Corpach from the Camping Coach, seems to match (c) Ernie Brack on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Ah - that makes more sense ! ...... I was thinking the Loch was behind the photographer in the first picture and couldn't figure out how he'd got Ben Nevis in shot from that angle : clearly it was some lesser summit and the Loch is off to the left. Anyway, THIS photo seems to show a replacement Camping Car as the panelling doesn't look very pullmanesque and I think there's a turnunder to the bodyside. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Thanks for all the info. guys. I think as this shot faces east the Caledonian Canal lock and Loch Linnhe is out of sight to the right. The 'big hill' in the Pullman shot might be one of the lesser lumps a bit to the north of Ben Nevis - possibly Coire Ceirsle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2020 There were two Pullman Camping Coaches at Morar in 1969 although I've an idea they might by then have only been available to BR staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 A rather different sort of Pullman 'Camping Coach', a few miles to the south and a few years later ...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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