Nearholmer Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 A fourth thing in common: deep distrust of the Russians, and the Germans come to that. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: A fourth thing in common: deep distrust of the Russians, and the Germans come to that. I read Norman Davies’ “Europe” about 20 years ago. It’s a monumental work, but left me with an impression of Poland as a rather civilised and tolerant nation (on its own, snd in conjunction with Lithuania), on the border of two aggressive “nations”, Prussia and Russia, and was unfortunately stuck between them after the former expanded westward and then, bit by bit, took control of “Holy Roman Empire”. In fact, the only constants in the last 1,500 years seemed to be Muscovite (not necessarily Russian) and Teutonic (not necessarily German) expansionism, with occasional breathing spaces. Everything else ebbed and flowed. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Regularity said: Personally speaking, I have found them to be honest, hard-working, helpful and friendly, and can’t see why anyone would complain. +1 They also have a better memory than most Brits of the British & Polish relationship 80 years ago. (Enigma, Squadrons 302 & 303, etc) https://www.britishpoles.uk/how-the-polish-mathematicians-deciphered-and-handed-over-the-enigma-code-to-french-and-british-allies/ https://www.rafbf.org/news-and-blogs/unsurpassed-gallantry-302-and-303-squadron 4 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Regularity said: Then there’s the other three qualities the English share with the Poles: We drink a lot, eat a lot of meat, and don’t want to be in Poland... There was a joke going round not long after Poland joined the EU: What's the difference between things now and during the war? In the war, the populace was in Warsaw but the government was in London; now, the government is in Warsaw but the populace is in London. 31 minutes ago, Regularity said: I read Norman Davies’ “Europe” about 20 years ago. It’s a monumental work, It is a splendid book although it is rather pro-Polish; Davies' wife is Polish. Likewise his The Isles is written from the viewpoint of a Welshman! If you haven't read it, his Microcosm: Portrait of a Central European City is worth a go: a history of the city currently known as Wroclaw, which has changed rulers and names more than many places. It has a particular appeal here as it's the nearest city to the town where Lexi taught English to trainee language teachers for the two years before we married. Superb railway station with an excellent ice-cream parlour (or was nearly 30 years ago) but thereby hangs another tale... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: rather pro-Polish; Davies' wife is Polish. Likewise his The Isles is written from the viewpoint of a Welshman! Yes, I got that, but he doesn’t hide the facts, and overall it was the ever-looming growth of Muscovy and Prussia which stuck in my mind. Ambitious, yes. Hurried? Not at all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Regularity said: Personally speaking, I have found them to be honest, hard-working, helpful and friendly, and can’t see why anyone would complain. They are also very good at holding up tents ..... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Going back to G&S....... In an AM-Dram production of "Iolanthe", my wife playing the Queen of the Fairies, had the line "I see no objection to stoutness in moderation" , she was 6 months pregnant at the time! Edited January 15, 2021 by DonB context 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Donald Trump: This Isn’t Happening on Radio 4. Hilarious. PS: "Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig likes it!" Edited January 15, 2021 by Edwardian 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Edwardian said: Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig likes it! Edited January 15, 2021 by ian 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 “Dump the Trump!” (Does sound a bit like sharting, though...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, ian said: For some reason I can't download this image. Jim 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2021 Perhaps it’s because the subtitle underneath reads “Damen im schlamm”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Caley Jim said: For some reason I can't download this image. Hopefully now corrected . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hmm. What’s green and smells of pork? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Regularity said: Hmm. What’s green and smells of pork? Kermit after an encounter with Miss Piggy? Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Caley Jim said: Kermit after an encounter with Miss Piggy? The “joke” is usually slightly more, <ahem> “intimate” than that, but I think we will leave it unsaid, although pork sausages do come to mind... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Regularity said: “Dump the Trump!” I discovered why he lost 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Regularity said: The “joke” is usually slightly more, <ahem> “intimate” than that, but I think we will leave it unsaid, although pork sausages do come to mind... Due to characterisation of the entities involved, I can envisage Miss Piggy being the one in possession of the sausage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2021 57 minutes ago, rocor said: Due to characterisation of the entities involved, I can envisage Miss Piggy being the one in possession of the sausage. Given the nature of the relationship, it was in joint use, if not joint ownership. Unless she is also known as “Miss Peggy”... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I dip into this topic from time to time and would now be grateful if someone can tell me what it has to with pre-group modelling. Shouldn't it be in the Wheeltappers section? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 Tradition, dear boy. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Wheeltappers ? You must be joking, the last time I checked in there, Bernard Manning was introducing The Krankies... 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 It's a discussion amongst pre-Grouping enthusiasts - folk who take the longer view of railway history. Move it to wheeltappers and we'd have any old diseasel-loving kettle-bashing types muscling in - the sort who can't put Brexit in the context of Parnell's downfall or Universal Credit in the context of Lloyd George's people's budget. 6 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 Go careful there, Stephen, just paging up reminds me the orange one and Miss Piggy also appear. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Northroader said: Go careful there, Stephen, just paging up reminds me the orange one and Miss Piggy also appear. Ah, but it's the contextualisation that is key. 1 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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