Hroth Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Welchester said: We (the students who were temporary summer workers at UCCA in the 1980s) used to have such fun mangling the four or five letter university codes: MANC was obvious, UMIST became 'You Missed' and LBRO (Loughborough) was 'Lowbrow'. There's a school of thought that Terry Pratchetts "Lancre" is a mangling of the code for Lancaster.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Very wet there too, and incredibly windy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Very wet there too, and incredibly windy. That’s the chip shop peas for you... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I studied a masters there, with week-long blocks of tuition, and I always travelled-up on a Sunday, on a train that was always diverted, and always took long enough to read an entire Sunday 'paper, including all the supplements, timing arrival to coincide with the world's cheapest and tastiest "all you can eat" buffet at the on-campus Indian restaurant - a large bowl of daal is more delicious than any chip-shop peas, but has the same unfortunate repercussions. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Edwardian said: This amused me .... I had a patient who worked for HMRC. He was sent down to London at one point to help out in an office there. The only person who spoke to him in the office was an Indian gentleman! I recall being at a 2MM SA do in Newcastle and there was a young London couple at our table at the dinner. the wife commented on the fact that shop assistants had carried on conversation with her. Our reaction was 'so?'! Jim 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Nearholmer said: I took soon for a day out to Manchester, and on the basis of that one visit he decided he wanted to go to uni there when the time comes, because people were so randomly friendly. C'mon, Manchester's not 'The North'! You're almost into the 'deep south' there, or at least the northern edge of the Midlands. Newcastle, Carlisle, that's getting North! Jim 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Caley Jim said: C'mon, Manchester's not 'The North'! You're almost into the 'deep south' there, or at least the northern edge of the Midlands. Newcastle, Carlisle, that's getting North! Jim Agree. From where I sit, the South starts at York! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Edwardian said: Agree. From where I sit, the South starts at York! No, the Midland(s) starts at York and goes all the way to Bournemouth. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 There are other local differences :- On a flying (literally) visit to Glasgow....... 1. Sunny dawn at East Midlands landed in Snow at Glasgow 2. I asked to be shown examples of potential suppliers precision casting process . was told none in stock, the last had been collected a few minutes earlier, by a courier " You must have seen him. Had the look of a Catholic about him" 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Edwardian said: I worked in Manchester for five years. I'm trying to recall it in bright, dry conditions. I can't. Five years ? You were lucky ! I worked at Manchester Univ. for 16 years... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, DonB said: 1. Sunny dawn at East Midlands landed in Snow at Glasgow That's nothing. When I was courting my wife I could leave my parent's house just west of Coatbridge in rain. By the time I got to the centre of Coatbridge it would be sleet, at the Coatbridge/Airdrie boundary it would be snowing and by the time I got to her house there would be snow lying. A 5 mile journey with a c300ft difference in height! 1 hour ago, DonB said: " You must have seen him. Had the look of a Catholic about him" To be able to tell that is a required skill in the Glasgow area! Jim 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Along the same lines.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Edwardian said: Agree. From where I sit, the South starts at York! The south starts at Bawtry (and the north when you cross the Tees). Adrian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, CKPR said: I worked at Manchester Univ. for 16 years... I was a student in Preston for 3 years. A trip to Manchester (or indeed anywhere, including the Lakes) meant visiting somewhere drier. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 The South (where summer comes soonest) starts at Waterloo, and extends roughly as far as Nice, beyond which it gets too hot. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I was brought up to believe the North started at Potter's Bar. Actually the word was that civilisation ended at PB which I took to be much the same thing... I now live in Norfolk AKA the North East. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 hours ago, wagonman said: I was brought up to believe the North started at Potter's Bar. Actually the word was that civilisation ended at PB which I took to be much the same thing... Correct, for the appropriate choice of direction from which to approach Potters Bar. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 When I was younger (so much younger than today) I never nee... No, I used to believe that a visit to my Grandmother in Leighton Buzzard (from my home at the Western end of Surrey) constituted a trip to the North as at that age it was probably the furthest North I'd travelled. However, there was more to it than that - I was loosely aware of different accents by that point and my grandmother, being a native of Bradford, also had a 'Generically Northern' accent, thus completing the impression of further travel. At any rate, we were outside of Metroland so it must've been the North... Nowadays I'm living in Aberystwyth for as much of the time as I can with a hope to move further inland to better-connected Machynlleth longer term. I'm never quite sure where Wales falls within the greater North/South divide but within Wales I'm pretty sure it's marked by the Dyfi (Dovey), which passes Machynlleth just to the North of the railway station. Currently I'm off the scale, in terms of the South. My involvement with managing a railway heritage project saw me visit Havenstreet (Isle of Wight) for some essential business Yesterday and I've had to stay the night in Ryde before returning North. Unfortunately I was the only committee member available for the perilous trip. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Edwardian said: Agree. From where I sit, the South starts at York! North/Southness is a mixture of state of mind and location. If you're north of the "southern counties" and don't even sound a little of the Birmingham connurbation, you probably have a Northern tendancy. Personally, I've always viewed Stoke-on-Trent as being on the northern fringes of the Midlands. Flat caps and whippets help as an indicator too. Edited March 2, 2021 by Hroth Forgotten letters... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 The North Midland Railway ran through the counties of Derby and York, so evidently those are both Midland counties. Now, I know the Lancashire, Derbyshire & East Coast railway didn't have any mileage in Lancashire, but that's not the point. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 Then there's the Great pointing-in-a-Northerly-direction Railway... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 As a Midlander by birth and half blood, and Northerner by half blood and adoption, I tend to believe that two things subsist simultaneously. 1. There is a North-South border. It is close to where I grew up and its course thereabouts is the Trent. 2. At the same time, there is a very definite Midlands. My familiarity is more with central to north midlands; the south Midlands are much less familiar. It's a matter of subjective perception, but I would put North Staffs, Cheshire, Derbyshire, North Lincs as 'North Midland'. The North does not start to feel Just North as opposed to Midland & North until I hit Lancashire and Yorkshire. That said, the North I inhabit (physically and mentally) feels distinctive from points further south; not Yorkshire wholly, but the North Riding, together with County Durham, Cumberland, Westmorland and Northumberland. 2 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Then there's the Great pointing-in-a-Northerly-direction Railway... The Great Hertfordshire Railway? Yes, I've travelled that many a time! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 The border of "northen-ness" might be drawn on a map by a committee, each member having a hand on the pencil... 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 I live in the land of the North Folk, very much different to the South fFolk Anyone north or west of us, is Furriners.. 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Here the further north you go the more like the deep south it gets. And you cant go in the water without risk of painful death.. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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