Proceedings of the Castle Aching Parish Council, 1905

[Northroader]

Rail crash?

[rocor]

On 15/05/2021 at 14:19, webbcompound said:

 

 

So are there any houses for sale or rent in 1905 West Norfolk? I may be interested in moving there.

 

On the face of it using modern money should get you a property bargain in 1905, as a pound would be worth 125 times more then, than it is now. On the other hand, if you were required to buy the house in 1905 currency, it is highly unlikely that you could find a 1905 gold sovereign for less than £300. So paper money would be the way to go, as series "A" (issued 1793 to 1944) white five pound notes can be obtained for under £100.

[rocor]

20 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Oh dear. I can think of invalid reasons, especially if he was the younger sibling (as I understand was the case).

 

Somehow the name didn't catch on, unlike Florence, whose parents were careful, after having made the mistake of naming her elder sister after a suburb of Naples.

 

Ploughshare?.

Spanish neighbourhood?.

Holiness ward?

Saint Lucy?.

[Compound2632]

13 minutes ago, rocor said:

Ploughshare?.

Spanish neighbourhood?.

Holiness ward?

Saint Lucy?.

 

Nope.

 

Parthenope.

 

NB. Parthenope does not rhyme with nope. But I take your point that the younger sister was Florence Nightingale not Firenze Nightingale. No consistency! But just as well she wasn't conceived in Livorno...

Edited May 17, 2021 by Compound2632

[rocor]

3 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Parthenope.

 

Sirens, crabs or fungi?

[Compound2632]

1 minute ago, rocor said:

Sirens, crabs or fungi?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Naples#Parthenope

[alastairq]

25 minutes ago, rocor said:

 

Sirens, crabs or fungi?

 You forgot  the asteroid?

 

[Or its relative, the adenoid?]

[Nearholmer]

1 hour ago, rocor said:

So paper money would be the way to go, as series "A" (issued 1793 to 1944) white five pound notes can be obtained for under £100.

 

My time-travelling plans generally involve pawn shops - take something eminently pawnable with me, pawn it, walk away with current legal tender.

 

Mind you, getting mugged would be a fair risk, especially if you tried to pawn something valuable-enough to buy a house. I've previously focused on raising sufficient readies for a few days 24/7 train-spotting in late-Victorian London.

[rocor]

12 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Naples#Parthenope

 

That was interesting from a historical perspective, I would imagine that it would be unfortunate to name a daughter with the appellation of a city that slid into decadence and had an association with losers.

 

Or is the point that the younger sisters' fame made her name popular, whereas the relative obscurity of her elder sibling, determined that there are/and have been a paucity of girls named Parthenope?.

[Edwardian]

The river Nene, pronounced 'neen', in Peterborough and 'nen' (from pre Ordnance Survey standardised spelling) in Northamptonshire, has, on what authority Radio 4 failed to make clear,  now to be pronounced 'nen' as a result of a crocket match.

[rocor]

7 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

 

My time-travelling plans generally involve pawn shops - take something eminently pawnable with me, pawn it, walk away with current legal tender.

 

Mind you, getting mugged would be a fair risk, especially if you tried to pawn something valuable-enough to buy a house. I've previously focused on raising sufficient readies for a few days 24/7 train-spotting in late-Victorian London.

 

Financially time travel works a lot better in the opposite direction, buying something in late Victorian times with the knowledge of current values (particularly art), could ensure a way for you to amass a fortune in the present time.

[ian]

Alternatively, given a small quantity of suitable currency (say one white fiver) and suitable research beforehand then the local bookmakers would provide you with a regular source of income...

[Compound2632]

9 minutes ago, ian said:

Alternatively, given a small quantity of suitable currency (say one white fiver) and suitable research beforehand then the local bookmakers would provide you with a regular source of income...

 

There's a film about that...

[Ian Simpson]

I think the secret of buying a house on a 1905 layout is to shrink yourself down to 1/76, but to keep your gold sovereign at its existing size.

Warning: you should always take independent financial advice before reducing yourself to OO/HO scale to buy a cardboard house.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Ian Simpson

[monkeysarefun]

16 minutes ago, ian said:

Alternatively, given a small quantity of suitable currency (say one white fiver) and suitable research beforehand then the local bookmakers would provide you with a regular source of income...

But then would you not  be comfortable enough  in the present time and so therefore have no need to go back into the past to seek your fortune which would mean you wouldn't be comfortable enough in the present time  etc etc etc.

[monkeysarefun]

1 minute ago, Ian Simpson said:

I think the secret of buying a house on a 1905 layout is to shrink yourself down to 1/76, but to keep your gold sovereign at its existing size.

Warning: you should always take independent financial advice before reducing yourself to OO/HO scale to buy a cardboard house.

Don't know, sounds more do-able than some of those pyramid schemes.

[Edwardian]

38 minutes ago, Ian Simpson said:

I think the secret of buying a house on a 1905 layout is to shrink yourself down to 1/76, but to keep your gold sovereign at its existing size.

Warning: you should always take independent financial advice before reducing yourself to OO/HO scale to buy a cardboard house.

 

Your home is at risk if you do not keep up the payments!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by Edwardian

[Nearholmer]

Don't we all dream of retiring to a folded cornflake packet in the country, with wisps of dyed lichen, and few dots of red paint, round the door?

[Hroth]

35 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

 

Your home is at risk if you do not keep up the payments!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am now imagining you with a monsterous moustache, twirling the waxed ends and chuckling as you evict the widows and orphans.

 

For charity's sake sir, have you no fine feelings???

 

 

[Edwardian]

1 minute ago, Hroth said:

 

 

 

For charity's sake sir, have you no fine feelings???

 

 

 

I'm a lawyer. Does that answer your question?

 

 

[Hroth]

1 hour ago, Ian Simpson said:

I think the secret of buying a house on a 1905 layout is to shrink yourself down to 1/76, but to keep your gold sovereign at its existing size.

 

On the digital tv channels there have been ads flogging "quarter sovs" for a mere 99 quid.  I've no idea of their actual weight of gold, but the quoted diameter of 10mm would make them more portable for the 1/76 scale person than a genuine half or whole sovereign!

 

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Edwardian said:

I'm a lawyer. Does that answer your question?

 

Mainly, it confirms my suspicions.... 

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by Hroth
corrected typo, etc.

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, Hroth said:

 

On the digital tv channels there have been ads flogging "quarter sovs" for a mere 99 quid.  I've no idea of their actual weight of gold, but the quoted diameter of 10mm would make them more portable for the 1/76 scale person than a genuine half of whole sovereign!

 

 

 

A sovereign contains 7.325 g of gold, so at current gold prices, it is worth £38.60 as bullion. A quarter sovereign must therefore be worth £9.65 as bullion. I suppose the balance of £89.35 represents such factors as its artistic value and rarity along with other intangibles such as purchaser credulity.

 

EDIT: Blunder. Vide infra.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Compound2632

[Regularity]

2 hours ago, Edwardian said:

The river Nene, pronounced 'neen', in Peterborough and 'nen' (from pre Ordnance Survey standardised spelling) in Northamptonshire, has, on what authority Radio 4 failed to make clear,  now to be pronounced 'nen' as a result of a crocket match.

The Croquet clubs from Northampton (splendid place, much underrated) and Peterborough (nasty little place, with only the Minster to save it) gave themselves the "authority". Apparently they will play again next year: whoever loses has to pronounce the river name according to the historical traditions of the other place.

Some old maps actually have "Nenn" and "Nenne", both of which would be pronounced as "Nen". I suspect someone was told to drop the extra "n" from "Nenn", but instead took it away from "Nenne".

According to a schoolteacher I had, from out of the area, when he brother saw the sign, be pronounced it "knee-knee college".

[Hroth]

16 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

A sovereign contains 7.325 g of gold, so at current gold prices, it is worth £38.60 as bullion. A quarter sovereign must therefore be worth £9.65 as bullion. I suppose the balance of £89.35 represents such factors as its artistic value and rarity along with other intangibles such as purchaser credulity.

 

According to the Royal Mint site, gold is trading at £1325/Troy ounce, approx £42/g. Of course thats what you'd have to pay out, not what you'd get when trying to sell...  But that means a whole sovereign would be worth around £307.  If the advertised quarter sov was actually a quarter in weight, then it would contain £77 in gold, still a bit of a marketing markup!

 

The Quarter Sov is actually a Royal Mint coin and legal tender, with a face value of 25p, though you'd be rather mad to try and use it as loose change!  When I saw the adverts, I thought it was one of those dodgy coins which were only legal tender in Gurnsey or Gibralter.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Hroth

[ian]

35 minutes ago, Hroth said:

 

I am now imagining you with a monsterous moustache, twirling the waxed ends and chuckling as you evict the widows and orphans.

 

For charity's sake sir, have you no fine feelings???

 

 

 

Our host shall henceforth be known, in best music hall tradition, as wicked Sir Jasper.