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Mystery Locomotives and locations


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More from my collection of "unknowns".

 

Can  anybody help me to identify the loco type and location of these two?  One (photo 20) is obviously French (SNCF) but the other (photo 19)......?  I  think it must be european judging by the configuration of it  and the other locos in the photo?

unknown 19.jpg

unknown 20.jpg

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The second photo is a 231K. And, I think it is not in France but at Carnforth, somewhere in the UK anyway..

 

Photo 19 is also French but I can't do any better than that without referring to books.

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I’d agree with Joseph that the second photo appears to be 231K.22 during it’s time in the UK (the locomotive is now at Nordlingen in Bavaria).

 

The top photo looks like a Compagnie du Nord 0-8-0T, see here: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/040_T_Nord_4.1801_à_4.1908

 

The label over the smokebox might help identify the location, which in the absence of anything positive could be one of the two Paris depots of that company, La Chappelle or La Plaine.

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