Nearholmer Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, God's Wonderful Railway 1835 said: what about this paraffin box Well, its a Ruston, and I'd guess possibly 48DL converted to SG. Venturing out for a spin on the WCML in that would be a tad terrifying. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-87703 Just to complement the KS 0-4-2T, another loco for relatively confined spaces. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 OK, I'm going to bid the Guinness locos that could be dropped into a converter truck to work standard gauge! http://www.narrowgaugerailwaymuseum.org.uk/collections/industrial-railways/guinness-brewery-railway/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2020 Might I nominate 'Lively Polly', of the Liverpool Overhead Railway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tim V said: OK, I'm going to bid the Guinness locos that could be dropped into a converter truck to work standard gauge! http://www.narrowgaugerailwaymuseum.org.uk/collections/industrial-railways/guinness-brewery-railway/ Fair bid, Tim; they meet the OP's requirements of having been built for service in what was then (1885-1921) still a part of the UK, just. Puffing Billy and Wylam Dilly were pretty small, even by the standards of the 1820s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nearholmer said: Well, its a Ruston, and I'd guess possibly 48DL converted to SG. There's another of those at Crich, adapted from one of the original metre gauge quarry locos. Edited October 21, 2020 by pete_mcfarlane 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy crockett Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Gazelle without doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, davy crockett said: Gazelle without doubt. But is she a 'locomotive' or a 'railmotor' ....... into which category, I don't think anyone's mentioned Drummond's 'Bug'. Has anyone mentioned "Judy" & "Alfred" by the way ? ........ though I don't think they would win the prize. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 But it looks like something that goes around a seaside carpark pulling screaming kids. The answer was in the first reply. The Peckett is both lower than Gazelle and shorter. That tender thing counts you know.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Hi Folks, Rare footage of Gazelle in action: Gibbo. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cunningham Loco & Machine Works Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Has anyone mentioned "Judy" & "Alfred" by the way ? ........ though I don't think they would win the prize. This isn't about the prize; it's about the smallest locomotives, plural. On that line of inquiry, what was the (dimensionally) smallest type or class of standard gauge locomotive built in quantity, i. e. not a "one-off" (2 or more built). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 There were 11 of the Peckett ‘Yorktown’ locos of which ‘Teddy’ is the survivor: whole thread here. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2020 Cycloped must have been a small “locomotive”... it was basically a horse, on a treadmill, mounted on railway wheels. It must have been exactly 1hp...unquestionably, unless someone short changed them for a pony... Rainhill, 1829 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2020 Yes, but Cycloped was not a steam loco, and therefore does not come within the OP's specifications. Same goes for small Rustons or Simplexes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Hmm. wonder how many spacers I would need to pack out the cylinders of my Mamod... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 hours ago, adb968008 said: Cycloped must have been a small “locomotive”... it was basically a horse, on a treadmill, mounted on railway wheels. It must have been exactly 1hp...unquestionably, unless someone short changed them for a pony... Rainhill, 1829 Surely it would be less than 1hp at the rail, as the gearing would have absorbed some of the energy output of the horse? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1hp is a scientific/engineering unit anyway, rather than what any given horse could sustain, so its all hugely approximate, but yes, wear, warmth and whirring-noises in the drive-train would have dissipated a deal of the poor nag's power. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2020 18 hours ago, Tim V said: OK, I'm going to bid the Guinness locos that could be dropped into a converter truck to work standard gauge! http://www.narrowgaugerailwaymuseum.org.uk/collections/industrial-railways/guinness-brewery-railway/ They weren't standard gauge but Irish gauge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Yes, standard in Ireland. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted October 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2020 Andrew Barclay built down to 10" cylinders for standard gauge. "10" & 8" cylinders for 3'6". Theoretically, they ' could' build smaller, but I'm not aware of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Yes, standard in Ireland. But 7ft 1/4inches was standard gauge on the GWR - even as late as 1891 GWR Service Timetables show the Stephenson gauge as 'narrow gauge'. So that puts 'Tiny' back in contention. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 And, on the Isle of Man ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 This little industrial Hunslet was built for Courage brewery 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 North Eastern 1310 a rather nice small 0-4-0T 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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