RobMG Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 What exactly is the problem with Lima 47 bogies ? They look pretty good to me , compared with photos, I can't see anything particularly not right about them or in what way are they too small ? Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMG Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 What exactly is the problem with Lima 47 bogies ? They look pretty good to me , compared with photos, I can't see anything particularly not right about them or in what way are they too small ? Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, RobMG said: What exactly is the problem with Lima 47 bogies ? They look pretty good to me , compared with photos, I can't see anything particularly not right about them or in what way are they too small ? Rob Hi Rob, i havnt looked at them in detail but they are too short on the model. Lima made all their CoCo bogies to use the same pancake motor unit (class 52 excepted) so they all have the same wheelbase where on the real things 47s, deltics, 31s etc do have different spacings to each other. From memory 47s have 7ft3 spacing and deltics are 6ft9. Admittedly there isnt much in it but there will be some compression on the models. It doesnt bother me too much as the bogies are great mouldings and look fine to my eyes but for complete accuracy they are not 100% Hope this helps James Edited November 22, 2020 by jessy1692 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 02/11/2020 at 14:39, MJI said: Very nice, the old Lima 47's scrub up nicely, the re-paint also helps. On ones I've done previously, painting the front cab window ledges all Black prior to fitting laser glaze also makes a worthwhile improvement. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMG Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 hours ago, jessy1692 said: Hi Rob, i havnt looked at them in detail but they are too short on the model. Lima made all their CoCo bogies to use the same pancake motor unit (class 52 excepted) so they all have the same wheelbase where on the real things 47s, deltics, 31s etc do have different spacings to each other. From memory 47s have 7ft3 spacing and deltics are 6ft9. Admittedly there isnt much in it but there will be some compression on the models. It doesnt bother me too much as the bogies are great mouldings and look fine to my eyes but for complete accuracy they are not 100% Hope this helps James Cheers James, As you say it's not a great , 2mm short. I think I can live with that. A bit of underframe detail and a coating of grime will divert attention from that.. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, RobMG said: Cheers James, As you say it's not a great , 2mm short. I think I can live with that. A bit of underframe detail and a coating of grime will divert attention from that.. Rob No probs Rob, there may be some other discrepencies but im no expert, very much in the if it looks right it is right camp with my modelling too. All the best James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMG Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, jessy1692 said: No probs Rob, there may be some other discrepencies but im no expert, very much in the if it looks right it is right camp with my modelling too. All the best James James, I do like to get things looking as right as possible, but I also bend the rules a bit here and there.. Looking right is the key.. I don't think 2mm is going to bother me.. All the best to you too Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I have to agree, the old Lima does look like what it is supposed to be. IIRC the model has lots of errors, but does just get away with them. Going from memory it is slightly too narrow in the body, the cab side window surrounds are too large (most noticeable with yellow window surrounds), the cab front windows are wrong, and the area around the battery boxes has fake extra bits added to hold the weight inside. The best upgrades I have done involve the under frame around the battery boxes, wire handrails and new buffers. Might try reducing the size of the cab side window surrounds on some I have yet to work on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMG Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Thank you, for your answer. I will confine my work to new battery boxes etc . flush glaze windows, buffer beams and buffers. Fans and grills. and repaint & transfers. Oh and nearer to scale wheels. and all hanging down pipes... Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMG Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, cheesysmith said: I have to agree, the old Lima does look like what it is supposed to be. IIRC the model has lots of errors, but does just get away with them. Going from memory it is slightly too narrow in the body, the cab side window surrounds are too large (most noticeable with yellow window surrounds), the cab front windows are wrong, and the area around the battery boxes has fake extra bits added to hold the weight inside. The best upgrades I have done involve the under frame around the battery boxes, wire handrails and new buffers. Might try reducing the size of the cab side window surrounds on some I have yet to work on. Had a further look at photos, and the model, can't really see anything that would bother me . The loco will be finished in two tone green with just the yellow panel at front , so the side windows are safe. I have a photo of me leaning out of the cab window of 1581 in the summer of 1971 that is the loco I am doing. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APT Fan Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Wiring looms and resistors in. Also rear cab wall added using plasticard (thanks for the link). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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