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Triang/Hornby B12? Pass the plasticard!


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On 30/10/2020 at 10:41, cypherman said:

Hi 33c,

Would love to know what you would do with the Triang Hall or Sir Dinadan.

The "Sir Dinadan" lends itself to an H15 for an easy change or the rebuilt T14. The round top firebox also opens up a world of scottish classes, like the Pickersgill 4-6-0. The Triang Hall itself would make a nice Highland castle class or this........

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4 hours ago, SD85 said:

Agreed, how exactly was that done? I've been considering a model of a Paddlebox but didn't realise you could make one from a B12.

 

It is a faff but get the boiler lowered enough and sand to a smooth tube and then its just a matter of the curves and hanging the bits on it. The main problem is the valve gear above the running plate so, i just made it dummy so the body lifts of as a whole. I made the tender from scratch but now a Hornby one would save a lot of time.

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G'Day Folks

 

Some very nice loco's, the B12's do lend themselves to many variations, I've made a C1, but with the large cab and booster (to be fitted) the body can be made into a J19 as you shown also a D16, and I daresay a D15, with a bit more work. Neither of mine are finished........but one day.

 

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On 30/10/2020 at 02:43, 33C said:

I seem to get a lot of B12's come through my hands, probably more than Princesses lately, so ,as threatened earlier, here are my conversions, done over the last 10 years....L.N.W.R./L.M.S. Claughton, Caledonian 908 class, G.E.R. S69, G.C.R. B2, L.N.E.R. C1, L.S.W.R. T9 Paddlebox and L.N.W.R. "Prince of Wales" class.20201028_160545.jpg.1c375228afa77c8b90f97c31d90f1d74.jpg20201028_160117.jpg.38174c904265662e8f0fb646c30a3390.jpg20201028_155849.jpg.17e14515b5ae5c475fa1e74befcbba1c.jpg20201028_155246.jpg.42de44fc7310067fb515f6feca0317c0.jpg20201028_155109.jpg.4e772ae9227271253780c53ee15afc07.jpg20201028_154938.jpg.6182e2afd921e616a8dd96d65a205bec.jpg

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The LNWR Prince of Wales and Claughton locomotives I like as well as the GER S69 and the GNR C1 Atlantic.

 

Say, how could you make a 4-6-0 chassis into a 4-4-2 chassis?

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Here's what I made with one, an LNWR 19" Express Goods 4-6-0:

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Yes, I know that the wheels and chassis are all too similar, but it was the best I could work with.

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This, along with other projects, fuelled my interest in the Pre-Grouping Era. I am working on an LMS version of it, but sadly the project has been stalled.

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3 hours ago, LNWR18901910 said:

The LNWR Prince of Wales and Claughton locomotives I like as well as the GER S69 and the GNR C1 Atlantic.

 

Say, how could you make a 4-6-0 chassis into a 4-4-2 chassis?

For a B12 .Take a sharp hacksaw and cut away 30mm (from the magnedhesion magnet hole and 3mm from below the motor retaining screw, all the way to the magnet hole), use a Nellie or L1 pick up plate or a bit of PCB board to make a mount for new pick ups. The middle wheels are substituted for the rear wheels. Punch out the crank pin/screw mount from the middle wheels and drill/needle file the rear wheels to fit it. Rods are cut down to fit. Drill and tap (8BA), a new pony truck screw hole at the rear of the chassis for your chosen pony.

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On 01/11/2020 at 00:31, LNWR18901910 said:

That all seems rather complicated but it's not something I'd be willing to try. It's more of an expert thing, really. Mind you, I did happen to think up a London and South Eastern Railway 4-4-2 Atlantic if you wish to hear.

Sounds good. You could use a Triang/Hornby L1/2P chassis under your B12 body? I did the above because it was all i had at the time! 

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15 hours ago, cypherman said:

Hi all,

All this talk about bashing B12's has made me think. Has any one actually bashed a Hornby B12 in to a really decent representation of a B12. Not just the plaything B12 that has been made.

Quote.............."your gonna need a bigger boiler".........unquote.

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I was led to believe that when the prototype was being measured up for the model, they measured the boiler when the cladding was off so, the model has a boiler about 1 1/2mm narrower in diameter than it should, as modelled with cladding on. A bit like how Airfix measured the prototype panther tank on display in France that had been burnt out so had collapsed torsion bar suspension and their model represented that re. too low with glacis plate angle adjusted so everything would fit.....:banghead:

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40 minutes ago, 33C said:

I was led to believe that when the prototype was being measured up for the model, they measured the boiler when the cladding was off so, the model has a boiler about 1 1/2mm narrower in diameter than it should, as modelled with cladding on. A bit like how Airfix measured the prototype panther tank on display in France that had been burnt out so had collapsed torsion bar suspension and their model represented that re. too low with glacis plate angle adjusted so everything would fit.....:banghead:

Well, they're only human.

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On 30/10/2020 at 02:43, 33C said:

I seem to get a lot of B12's come through my hands, probably more than Princesses lately, so ,as threatened earlier, here are my conversions, done over the last 10 years....L.N.W.R./L.M.S. Claughton, Caledonian 908 class, G.E.R. S69, G.C.R. B2, L.N.E.R. C1, L.S.W.R. T9 Paddlebox and L.N.W.R. "Prince of Wales" class.20201028_160545.jpg.1c375228afa77c8b90f97c31d90f1d74.jpg20201028_160117.jpg.38174c904265662e8f0fb646c30a3390.jpg20201028_155849.jpg.17e14515b5ae5c475fa1e74befcbba1c.jpg20201028_155246.jpg.42de44fc7310067fb515f6feca0317c0.jpg20201028_155109.jpg.4e772ae9227271253780c53ee15afc07.jpg20201028_154938.jpg.6182e2afd921e616a8dd96d65a205bec.jpg

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that paddle box is drop dead gorgeous

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