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St. Rollox Road: a Glasgow area Stabling point c.1970


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Happy new year all.

 

The layout has been retrieved from the loft and the fuel pumps added, along with some cosmetic point levers.

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I knew the signing on office would be a fairly tight fit at the front of the layout, but fit it does, with just enough play that it can be parallel to the loading platform/ layout edge or to the curving track behind. The Armco barrier is to stop any staff vehicles parking a little too close to the running line!

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The grounded container on the platform might be replaced by a small flat roofed office leftover from whatever company once ran it, jury is out on that one currently....

 

My good Lady bought me a new toy for Christmas too....

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It's "not allowed to be dirty like the other engines"........:nono:

 

 

........nothing was said about renumbering or modifying it though!:diablo_mini::mocking_mini:

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7 hours ago, lezz01 said:

Very nice mate. My Kimmy brought me a Bachmann 3f and a craftsman kit for a round top 1P for my new EM layout.

Regards Lez. 

Thanks Lez.

 

That sounds a good haul, quite lucky to find the 1P in this day and age I imagine. I have used a few Craftsman Detailing/ conversion kits in the past and always found them to have rather good etches and castings.

 

All the best,

Martyn.

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16 hours ago, Max Legroom said:

Is the new 24 about to become a 25/0 Martyn? Perfect for a Glasgow setting.

Aha, give that man a prize!

 

It is certainly at the forefront of my thinking, having seen your post on this very subject, it is a strong possibility.....let's just say research is ongoing!

 

As most (if not all) the 25/0's ended up at either Eastfield or Haymarket in 1971/2, it would seem an ideal prospect. Many ended up with a later (winged headcode box) cab at one end at least, but such conversions mainly seem to be after this point and it's something I have no intention of replicating. Technically it means the undeframe boiler water tanks would need removing too which equally doesn't thrill me at this point! Also I would need to confirm which were blue when new to the area, the Derby Sulzers website is proving quite useful for this.

 

The other option is to keep it as a Midland based 24/1 which has worked up from Carlisle perhaps.

 

Either way I won't be hacking it into a Highland 24/1!

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10 minutes ago, Max Legroom said:

I’m fairly sure someone on here has already converted one to a 25/0. I must admit that I was thinking of getting hold of one but blew my budget on Bachmann’s 40142 which is rather good too.

Apologies, could have sworn I'd seen a 25/0 conversion on "Strachur", it must have been on another layout topic I follow. Must admit a 40 or 2 are on the radar at some point!

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Today I have cut out a fairly low hardboard backscene and the back wall for the cosmetic "carriage shed", which itself forms a major part of the backscene. The latter has had Wills corrugated sheets and Evergreen 'C' section uprights added; once these have been painted, the lower brickwork can be added.

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I decided not to make the shed the full length of the layout between the bridges, feeling it would look too contrived, so I am going to have to provide some sort of "across the tracks" depth to the backscene at the fuelling point end in particular, which could be fun.....

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3 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

A photograph?

 

Mike.

Hi Mike,

Yes that is pretty much what I'm thinking. The area involved is only about 6" or so long, so it won't need anything too extravagant thankfully, just a few tracks with a retaining wall or embankment, from an appropriate angle. Just need to find a suitable photo...! Although the general idea is that coaches/DMUs will largely hide the rail level anyway.

 

Martyn.

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2 ideas for the blank bit on the end.

 

1-put a dwarf wall in, with blue/grey sky behind for photos from track level.

 

2-cut it out, and have a second board behind the one you have. Make this board about 1ft by 2ft (as long as a DMU coach) and have the front of the shed with doors so you can position your DMU nosing out of the shed, just placed into position when taking photos from a higher angle.

 

In fact, on thinking about it, do both. Dwarf wall, cut out that bit of the back screen, and put a removable grey/blue sky bit, then you can have the shed doors bit when you remove the sky bit.

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On 05/01/2021 at 16:42, cheesysmith said:

2 ideas for the blank bit on the end.

 

1-put a dwarf wall in, with blue/grey sky behind for photos from track level.

 

2-cut it out, and have a second board behind the one you have. Make this board about 1ft by 2ft (as long as a DMU coach) and have the front of the shed with doors so you can position your DMU nosing out of the shed, just placed into position when taking photos from a higher angle.

Thanks for the ideas, much appreciated.

 

I think a low wall will probably be included as per your suggestion.

 

I'm not too worried about the "ends" of the shed as they would only be visible when viewed from the very end of the layout; as my plan is to use the lighting pelmet from "Dunnington", this will more or less eliminate such a viewpoint. 

Perhaps of more importance, I don't currently have any storage space for any add on boards (even including the planned small fiddle yard!).

 

So I'm limited to cropping photos, or painting, to show a few tracks (possibly with coaching stock) with the road bridge wing wall behind that, on the backscene. Thankfully it's only a small area that is involved!

 

Thanks,

Martyn.

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I have added the small 20" fiddle yard area following a succesful raid on the outhouse. All the wood used is recycled from previous efforts so it doesn't look very pretty currently. It cantilevers off the main board frame via extended frames which locate inside the main board frame and is secured with coach bolts, which avoids the need for additional support.

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This involved cutting slots in the end main board crossmember; naturally a screw holding the baseboard to the crossmember was found to be in the wrong place so had to be removed, worse it was under the polystyrene raised track at the rear!:blush:

So the track (as yet unballasted, thankfully) had to be lifted and the polystyrene base removed at the board end, destroying it in the process; this turned out to be a blessing though, as it meant that once the errant screw was removed, some 20mm deep timber could be inserted instead as the track base to give a level transition onto same in the fiddle yard.

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Now to see if I have a few spare offcuts of track to add to it, along with enough hardboard to make the rest of the facias, place your bets....:dontknow::mocking_mini:

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The fiddle yard has had cork strips added where the tracks will be fitted, and a blast of black paint over the visible parts. Meanwhile I have screwed the main part of the hardboard backscene into place, pending further refinement. This has also been sprayed white on the front and black on the rear - photo backscenes will be pasted on, with other images sourced elsewhere printed, cut out and added over the base scenes.

I couldn't resist taking a few photos of a class 126 in an otherwise deserted yard!

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I feel the layout is coming together nicely now. Still need to check the hardboard supplies, but I have found enough track for the fiddle yard. Not sure about fishplates now though.....

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End backscene boards have been made and "concrete" walkways (strips of hardboard, rear side up, sprayed with grey primer auto paint) added alongside the rear track. This looks quite effective from viewing distance.

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The gap remaining along the top edge of the wall is for some sort of fencing to be added.

Several locos were used to hold the walkways flat whilst the PVA cured, so they ended up being photographed too (a mix of Type 2s and a single Type 3).

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The rear track can now be ballasted, then it's on to smaller details and the control panel, plus finishing the fiddle yard.

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On 04/01/2021 at 13:17, Signaller69 said:

Aha, give that man a prize!

 

It is certainly at the forefront of my thinking, having seen your post on this very subject, it is a strong possibility.....let's just say research is ongoing!

 

As most (if not all) the 25/0's ended up at either Eastfield or Haymarket in 1971/2, it would seem an ideal prospect. Many ended up with a later (winged headcode box) cab at one end at least, but such conversions mainly seem to be after this point and it's something I have no intention of replicating. Technically it means the undeframe boiler water tanks would need removing too which equally doesn't thrill me at this point! Also I would need to confirm which were blue when new to the area, the Derby Sulzers website is proving quite useful for this.

 

The other option is to keep it as a Midland based 24/1 which has worked up from Carlisle perhaps.

 

Either way I won't be hacking it into a Highland 24/1!

Just to reassure you the tanks are easily removable but you will need to strip the loco down to do it 

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36 minutes ago, luckymucklebackit said:

Need an "envy" button:P, looking fantastic Martin.

 

Jim

 

Thanks Jim. I had a strange thought earlier, being set in Glasgow the idea of replacing one of the end road bridges with a Forth & Clyde Canal bridge popped into my mind, with a Puffer passing over the railway, as of course happened in a couple of locations in Glasgow.....do you think it might be too much?

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14 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

 

Thanks Jim. I had a strange thought earlier, being set in Glasgow the idea of replacing one of the end road bridges with a Forth & Clyde Canal bridge popped into my mind, with a Puffer passing over the railway, as of course happened in a couple of locations in Glasgow.....do you think it might be too much?

 

Puffer on a bridge certainly breaks the cliche of the bus on the bridge!  Why not - go for it!

 

Jim

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2 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said:

 

Puffer on a bridge certainly breaks the cliche of the bus on the bridge!  Why not - go for it!

 

Jim

Thanks Jim, I will have to have a look at some bridge images to see if they will fit, but the idea sounds attractive! As for the bus on a bridge, that could still happen whatever, but I'd need to find one that fits the period and location first, otherwise it may be a lorry!:yes:

 

Martyn.

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16 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Thanks Jim, I will have to have a look at some bridge images to see if they will fit, but the idea sounds attractive! As for the bus on a bridge, that could still happen whatever, but I'd need to find one that fits the period and location first, otherwise it may be a lorry!:yes:

 

Martyn.

 

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A bit too modern maybe, but you could kill two birds with one stone as this actually was seen in Glasgow.

 

Mike.

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I seem to be following 9C85 around the forum this week! Likewise I’ve just found the layout and I’m loving the work. Definitely a few ideas to borrow, not least the way you’ve built the layout to ease photography. 
 

Lovely atmosphere around the place too. And who doesn’t love a Sulzer?

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9 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

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A bit too modern maybe, but you could kill two birds with one stone as this actually was seen in Glasgow.

 

Mike.

Love it Mike, is it a bus, is it a boat? Would certainly provoke discussion!:mocking_mini:

 

Martyn.

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