Hornby Gresley corridor third coach for Beaminster Road

[Guest Jack Benson]

Hi,

 

My interest is BR(S), the layout needs a single Gresley single corridor all-third coach and the Hornby range might provide a suitable model but which model. My knowledge is sadly lacking moreover Hornby seems to have offered two levels of detail over the years, is there a simple method of telling which to choose? 

 

Maunsell set 398 plus Gresley all-third image

 

Many thanks for your advice.
 

 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Jack Benson
Added link to image

[trevor7598]

The Gresley corridor third in your image is an end vestibule example.

Hornby do not have this version in their range.

 

[Guest Jack Benson]

25 minutes ago, trevor7598 said:

The Gresley corridor third in your image is an end vestibule example.

Hornby do not have this version in their range.

 

Thank you, 

 

their all third will do.

 

Cheers and stay safe

[JamieR4489]

It's actually a composite, not an all third. You can tell by the alternating windows either with or without the ventilators.

 

The Hornby Railroad composite is too short (58'6" rather than 61'6") and the underframe belongs to an LMS carriage. The body shape itself is fairly good but the bogies are basic.

 

The super-detail carriages are better but not perfect. Hornby got the shape wrong on the lower panels (the tumblehome or turnunder is not pronounced enough so the carriage looks slab-sided) and some of the beading is in the wrong place. There are also some faults on the underframe (though I can't remember what they are).

 

The super-detail carriage would probably be your best bet unless you want to kit build. The faults are far less noticeable than on the Railroad version.

 

HTH

[MikeTrice]

24 minutes ago, JamieR4489 said:

It's actually a composite, not an all third. You can tell by the alternating windows either with or without the ventilators.

Not true. It is I believe a D155 corridor third built from 1934 onwards. A composite would have different width panels between the windows whereas the photo appears to have even spaced panels.

[JamieR4489]

9 minutes ago, MikeTrice said:

Not true. It is I believe a D155 corridor third built from 1934 onwards. A composite would have different width panels between the windows whereas the photo appears to have even spaced panels.

My apologies. I thought D155s didn't have ventilators on the corridor windows? As in this picture

[MikeTrice]

Neither did the composites. They were added later. D298 from 1939 had them from the start so it could be one of these.

Edited November 3, 2020 by MikeTrice

[JamieR4489]

Ah thanks for clearing that up. Not sure where I got the idea from that compos had them from the start.

[MikeTrice]

I may owe you an apology. Isinglass uses the same drawing for D155, D256, D288 and D298 but mentions that the D155s did not have the extra vents on the corridor side. Whether they were modified in later life as I stated is still a possibility.