RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted November 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) I'm building an O gauge BR class 25, a Wagon & Carriage works white metal & etched brass kit. It's been a protracted build-8 years in, I've completed one bogie, and am half way through the second. Partly because I am busy with other things, like running, and keeping a classic car on the road, but mainly because I am lazy, I need to get another gear and worm, and some delrin chain. I need a 25 tooth gear with a twin start worm. The gear that came with the kit is 15mm dia, 11mm wide, with a tooth ring that is 4.8mm wide, and an inner diameter of 3/16" (mixed units-sorry!). The worm is 8mm dia, with a 2mm shaft dia. Can anyone suggest where to get one please? I've tried Ultrascale and Markits, nothing seems to match. Cheers N Edited June 26, 2021 by rodent279 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Have you approached PRMRP who currently market the kit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted November 4, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, JeffP said: Have you approached PRMRP who currently market the kit? Haven't approached them, but they don't list anything similar on their website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M51625 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 try Roxey Mouldings, they have a selection of twin start worm gears Do you know the manufacturer of the one you have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted November 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2020 Slaters sell Delrin chain now it's in the motor and gears section at the bottom of the page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 23 hours ago, rodent279 said: Haven't approached them, but they don't list anything similar on their website. But may know a supplier, since they still sell the kits? I'd telephone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 26, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 04/11/2020 at 10:31, JeffP said: Have you approached PRMRP who currently market the kit? On 04/11/2020 at 10:52, rodent279 said: Haven't approached them, but they don't list anything similar on their website. Ah, I think I may be wrong. PMRP list a 12.5:1 ratio worm & gear. The one I have in the kit (which dates from Wagon & Carriage Works days) is a twin start worm, with a 25 tooth gear-does that make it a 12.5:1 ratio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 The easiest solution might be two new matched gear sets. Your existing set can go into the spares box or return some funds via the bay of E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 26, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, doilum said: The easiest solution might be two new matched gear sets. Your existing set can go into the spares box or return some funds via the bay of E. I could, but the problem with that is that I would then have to de-solder the whitemetal frames from the brass bogie chassis. I'd like to avoid this, as a) it's already been on and off a couple of times, and b) my whitemetal soldering is ham-fisted at best, and I've already managed to damage two of the bogie sideframes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Fair point. I didn't realise that the white metal frames were structural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobjUK Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 PRMRP list both delrin chain kits and their standard ratio gears under the "Motors, gears and delrin" category: http://www.prmrp.com/motors-gears-and-delrin.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted July 7, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2021 Thanks all for the contributions. An email to PMRP, and subsequent phone call, has cleared things up. The worm I have is a twin start worm, and the wheel has 25 teeth, so it is in fact a 12.5:1 ratio. I have now bought some new Delrin chain, sprockets, a worm, wheel and motor, and 2 new bogie side frames to replace the ones butchered by my ropey white metal/low melting point soldering "technique". I'm good to go now, hopefully I'll have the kit finished in time for the 20th anniversary of its purchase next year! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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