Moderators Popular Post AY Mod Posted November 6, 2020 Moderators Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2020 Photo - Brian Daniels Much-requested and widely travelled First Generation DMU now in development, providing the ideal companion for other HELJAN OO gauge models, including the Class 25, 45 and 47. Design work is underway on HELJAN’s next ‘OO’ gauge project – the BR Class 104 DMU built by Birmingham Railway Carriage & Wagon Co. for the London Midland and North Eastern Regions. CAD work is in progress and images will be released as soon as design work is complete. This model will be available in a wide range of BR liveries covering the life of the class from 1957 until retirement of the final sets in 1993. With 302 vehicles built to six different car types, the ‘104s’ are the largest group of BR diesel railcars not currently available in ready-to-run form. The only previous RTR model was produced for ‘TT’ gauge in the late-1950s. Although synonymous with the Manchester area and the routes to Buxton and Blackpool, the units worked across a wide area of northern England and the Midlands and towards the end of their career ventured further afield to Scotland and the south-east of England. The new HELJAN OO gauge Class 104 will feature a low profile mechanism powering one car per set, switchable interior and exterior lighting features, a 21-pin DCC decoder interface and provision for DCC sound. Options for factory-fitted DCC sound on all models are being investigated and will be announced separately. External features will include authentic detail variations appropriate to period and livery, a highly-detailed interior and underframe, separate handrails, sprung buffers NINE versions have been selected for general release in the first batch, covering a cross-section of BR green, blue and Sectorisation era liveries – see below for more information. Suggested Retail Price will be announced later. Look out for updates on the HELJAN Facebook page and in the model railway press as this exciting project develops. HELJAN CLASS 104 OO GAUGE MODELS* 1450: BR early green 3-car with Lion & Wheel emblem M50422+M59134+M50426 1451: BR green 3-car with speed whiskers & Coaching Stock roundel M50478+M59186+M50530 1452: BR green 2-car E50598+E56189 (small yellow panels) 1453: BR Blue 3-car M50436+M59141+M50488 (full yellow ends/headcode panel) 1454: BR Blue with ‘Blackpool’ white stripe M50472+M59180+M50524 1455: BR Blue M53421+M53529 with NSE flash/white cab roof WEATHERED 1456: ScotRail ‘Mexican Bean’ red/white SC53424+SC53434 1457: BR Blue/Grey ‘BX487’ M53424+M59207+M53434 1458: Revised Network SouthEast ‘L701’ 53437+53479 36 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 7, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2020 Bump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 08221 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 Fantastic new, well done Heljan! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, AY Mod said: Bump I'm amazed you had to bump this Andy. I'd have expected pages of posts why its completely the wrong model by now ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 7, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, russ p said: I'm amazed you had to bump this Andy. I'd have expected pages of posts why its completely the wrong model by now ! It's only because I'd hidden it until the embargo time after creating the topic yesterday. This one's certainly going to cost me. Ben told me in the interview that it has low-floor mechanism etc. which is good news. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Great news. May have to retire my 3 car green syp version, converted from a Hornby 110 with craftsman front ends and a new Hornby 5 pole motor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paullad1984 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Now I'm excited, I was aiming at getting a Bachmann 108 but now I want this. Exciting times for dmu fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold cambo74 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 Nice work - one Mexican Bean pre-ordered ..... now for someone to do a 303 ...... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 Hallelujah ! let me say it again... Hallelujah. I need 3x units to make a typical Manchester -Blackpool train. One unmotorised as its knackered in the middle, All with loose exhausts, windows rattling, and me hanging out the front window. One drivers front blind closed, one open, drivers bag on the desk right. That for me is the best announcement this year. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2020 b*gger. A Blackpool white stripe. Future layout plans may change 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben04uk Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Excellent news - did this class of DMU ever make it to Ilkley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, AY Mod said: Yes - https://www.railcar.co.uk/images/1419 That's a 110, Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 7, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2020 Well spotted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Very happy, this was the DMU of my childhood. Day trips to Blackpool, Southport.. early 80’s on a summer sat back when relief trains were still run, I recall one morning, 3x sets came in a trio one after the other, all full and we had to wait for the next as they were all full, I was impatiently wanting to board, but was surprised at the increased frequency. Of course at Blackpool, for the return home, waiting endlessly for the Blackpool staff to open the barrier so we could go out, but they’d never let you wander the platform, so loads of missed numbers. Another memory is riding down to Salford, again window hanging, straining to see the last usage of the RSH’s at Agecroft. Another memory would be the unusual routing around Brindle Heath to Pendleton and Manchester from Bolton on these, the Blackburn hourly’s stopping all stations along the Bolton line. its a jack pot for me this. Next time I saw a 104 was the opening weekend to Cauldon Lowe in 2010... I decided to pass on riding behind 71000 for a trip on the 104.. needless to say getting a window to hang by was both easy and the only place I went. looking at the list, I see the Blue w/ White Stripe, All Blue and Blue Grey, you can safely put all three in the same train, as a 6,7,8 or 9 car, in any combination or order of colours, and still be wholly accurate for a summer saturday Blackpool, whatever spaghetti Newton Heath could mix, they did, there was some right mongrels put out, and hybrid units too. http://wmbusphotos.com/Trains/class104/Blackpool090783.html Edited November 7, 2020 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 This is a 104 at Ilkley 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 With the Blue/Grey Buxton set, I hope Heljan are aware of the different size of the grey panel on 59207...... https://www.railcar.co.uk/images/7259 When this set was first painted in Blue/Grey it had centre trailer 59132 and that had livery consistent with he two power cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) I wonder, with the lighting options, if this model could be the first one to come with smell ? People think Ryanair invented the scrum.... I remember the Blackpool Illuminations services, 8-10pm night, on a school night too.. Usually cold, probably wet.. As soon as the barrier opened it was a free for all down the platform for seat. It was dog eat dog, as once full, they’d deny boarding and put you on the next one too. Once youve run onboard for a seat, the carriage would begin to hum, as everyone unwrapped their fish and chips, and started to chow down... you could smell the unit before you saw it by Poulton. By the time it reached Chorley, those wanting to get off, would have to work around the loo queue as well, as everyone wanted to do their thing before the mass exodus getting off at Bolton. Edited November 7, 2020 by adb968008 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 This is so wonderful. I have voted for this in each poll going back to MREmag days! Lovely memories of these, (from vibrations, noise, ride, fumes, rattling windows, soggy elbows, good forward views, roaring rails), from Manchester Victory (and Pccadilly) to points east of Manchester. Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
158722 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 An excellent choice of unit - a suprisingly large geographic coverage and liveries, plus as Ben said, the largest DMU fleet never done RTR yet. The Bean will definately go well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Unexpected but very welcome, I expected this to come from Barwell as a last hurrah of their 57ft underframe. Given I'm already in for nearly two grands worth of Heljan AL6, 25, 45 and 47s, with at least three 104s hitting the spot in this announcement, does that mean I qualify for honorary Danish citizenship for significant contributions to the Danish economy? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Brilliant!! Finally a Class 104 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepyrider Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Excellent choice Heljan, surprised its taken so long for someone to produce this stalwart of the 1st gen scene! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 Very nice, and if Hattons’ estimated price is to be believed, a very attractive price too. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 NSE for me. Loved the 104s. As well as the Gospel Oak to Barking line, they were often seen on the GWML. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Great news, this has made me forget everything else going on in the world just now. Well done Heljan ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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