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I think, for the class 104 it needs to keep the saloon free of motor and gears, along with the undeframe, so myself I’d prefer the Bachmann and Realtrack answer which is a small, low slung motor and associated gears. You get the best of all worlds then, with an excellent performing model too. I hope they don’t fill the DMBS with a huge slab of metal surrounding the motor as in the first batch of Bachmann’s class 150’s. Time will tell.

 

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2 hours ago, Market65 said:

I think, for the class 104 it needs to keep the saloon free of motor and gears, along with the undeframe, so myself I’d prefer the Bachmann and Realtrack answer which is a small, low slung motor and associated gears. You get the best of all worlds then, with an excellent performing model too. I hope they don’t fill the DMBS with a huge slab of metal surrounding the motor as in the first batch of Bachmann’s class 150’s. Time will tell.

 

Rob.

 

On 07/11/2020 at 13:21, AY Mod said:

 

This one's certainly going to cost me. Ben told me in the interview that it has low-floor mechanism etc. which is good news.

 

 

 

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Like most other people I think this is fantastic news.  I have very fond memories of these units. 

As a young trainspotter we used to buy tickets at Longport every Saturday morning to Crewe return.  Then spend the day at Crewe train spotting and marking off the Ian Allen lists in the books. 

The view into the 104 cab when passing through Harecastle tunnels was amazing, and the purple / blue engine lights appeared really bright in the gloom (you could hardly see them in daylight).  The tunnel still smelled very smoky back then (mid  60's) since there were a few steam locos around.  It was every young boy's dream to sit up front behind the driver and such a disappointment when it turned out to be first class in the direction of travel.  

In my mid teens (early 70's)  I used to catch the Crewe Works train every morning at Longport - almost invariably a 104, and back again in the evening. 

I'll buy at least one, maybe two. 

And I have my fingers and toes crossed that Heljan might scale it up and manufacture a 2 or 3 car unit in 7mm / O Gauge.  One of these plus the Swindon cross country class 120 if it comes to fruition would be sublime.

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On 27/11/2020 at 08:19, SirBud said:

Like most other people I think this is fantastic news.  I have very fond memories of these units. 

As a young trainspotter we used to buy tickets at Longport every Saturday morning to Crewe return.  Then spend the day at Crewe train spotting and marking off the Ian Allen lists in the books. 

The view into the 104 cab when passing through Harecastle tunnels was amazing, and the purple / blue engine lights appeared really bright in the gloom (you could hardly see them in daylight).  The tunnel still smelled very smoky back then (mid  60's) since there were a few steam locos around.  It was every young boy's dream to sit up front behind the driver and such a disappointment when it turned out to be first class in the direction of travel.  

In my mid teens (early 70's)  I used to catch the Crewe Works train every morning at Longport - almost invariably a 104, and back again in the evening. 

I'll buy at least one, maybe two. 

And I have my fingers and toes crossed that Heljan might scale it up and manufacture a 2 or 3 car unit in 7mm / O Gauge.  One of these plus the Swindon cross country class 120 if it comes to fruition would be sublime.

I think they said they would do a class 120 if the class 117 sold good but think they will probably do the class 104 as they made more of them.

I am hoping they scale down the class 120 and do it 4mm as if you can in 7mm and it sells well it is more than likely to sell well in 4mm and seems high up on the 4mm DMU wish lists

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A couple of Scottish ones for me. A Mexican bean and one other that will need to be renumbered, so I am hoping the destinations are easy to change. Just got to work out which one is best to renumber to represent one of the Scottish 3-car sets. 


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On 26/11/2020 at 23:41, jsp3970 said:

NO! I have slowly been acquiring the parts to turn a 110 into a 104. Good job I never started.

I have done a few.

 

015.jpg.2c766ff2ca96d1160119348d2fe44a42.jpgAwaiting paint shops, two 4 car NER units.

 

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With Heljan 47 tipping £220 , the Class 104 when it arrives will not be cheap . It was only announced recently , so probably 2 years away . So I suspect there will continue to be 110 to 104 conversions

 

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Came across a reference in the Dec 1969 Railway Observer of the first 'white stripe' Blackpool units being observed at Preston, probably around August 1969 due to the publishing lag - which is quite a lot earlier than I would have thought.

 

The vehicles involved were 50471+59179+50523, 50477+59185+50526, and 50475+59183+50527.

 

 

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46 minutes ago, wombatofludham said:

Initial CAD is up on Faceache

Class 104 update

Looking really good so far.

 

Takes me back to cold evenings on Bletchley station as a teenager when the 104s were coming down from the Manchester depots to replace our Craven 105s!

 

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Oh wow. It looks superb, with, amongst other things, the first time the hand rails have been modelled on the cab/lead passenger saloon glazing. Also you can see the engine start/stop button panel on the drivers side of the cab, and the correct pattern of steps on the bogie below the cab. 
Then there are the seats which look very good with the distinctive head ‘roll’, very much a feature of these BRCW units. I’m most confident that we are in for a first class model from Heljan with these class 104’s. And all the basic shapes of the body and roof look to be correct too.

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