RMweb Premium cornelius Posted August 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Might it be time to revise the thread title, p'raps ??!? Will have to ask @James Hilton to do the honours here as it's his thread. You can technically still pre-order a loco, just no longer with the discount. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Excellent move by Rails! Something which will go well with Bachmann’s ROD 2-8-0. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted August 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2021 Why? Pre-orders are still open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted August 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just to clarify, as we've had a few queries - Rails has come on board as a retail partner with stock of all Victory liveries, including their exclusive ROD loco. We (Planet Industrials) are still offering direct sales through the Light Railway Stores marketplace, and will be fulfilling all directly placed orders ourselves. No customer data for direct orders is passed on to Rails. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted August 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, cornelius said: Just to clarify, as we've had a few queries - Rails has come on board as a retail partner with stock of all Victory liveries, including their exclusive ROD loco. We (Planet Industrials) are still offering direct sales through the Light Railway Stores marketplace, and will be fulfilling all directly placed orders ourselves. No customer data for direct orders is passed on to Rails. I for one am grateful for the clarity. I would prefer to deal with yourselves and not with Rails. Personal preference. Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) I have another question for the Planet Industrials team, please, as I ponder the hoped-for conversion to P4, namely - what is the wheel diameter of the prototype driving wheels, please and is anyone aware of an existing product (eg. by Alan Gibson) that would suit this loco? Many thanks. Edit - wheel diameter question answered by my own research here - https://planetindustrials.co.uk/victory I have seen references to AG producing wheels suitable for this prototype as well, their pack reference 4848G is for a 4' 0" diameter, 15 spoke wheel for a GER prototype, but in terms of crank pin position it doesn't seem correct and I'm not sure how many spokes the prototype Victory class actually had, as some are hidden behind the balance weights, but I could guess at 14. Edited September 12, 2021 by Captain Kernow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2021 Quite apart from the wheel size/type, and the Gibson's mentioned do seem the only real option unless you re-worked the wheels that come with the loco as I probably would, the main concern I have is keying the drive gear on the axle - not sure if it's just a push fit or a splined axle, the CAD doesn't show if it is, and the cast motion. Not sure what the castings are, mazak I guess, but unusual and thick, as with the crossheads, so clearance is going to be an issue I feel. Looks like it's tight as it is in 16.5mm with the motion braket etc into the bargain. Nice little challenge though...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: .... I'm not sure how many spokes the prototype Victory class actually had, as some are hidden behind the balance weights, but I could guess at 14. Definitely an even number and it looks like the crank pin is between a couple of spokes - so, yes, fourteen. Sod's Law dictates that the Gibson wheel is 'pin in line' - but the spokes are so short there that the discrepancy might not be noticed ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willjam39 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I know with world logistics still being unpredictable this might be a daft question but do we have an estimated arrival date for these? Its just with Christmas coming up it'll be good for working out budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted November 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 26/10/2021 at 08:25, willjam39 said: I know with world logistics still being unpredictable this might be a daft question but do we have an estimated arrival date for these? Its just with Christmas coming up it'll be good for working out budget. Apologies for the delay getting back to you on this. Following the review of the decorated samples we opted to make some minor internal changes to the model to optimise performance of the sound fitted version, this along with unpredictable manufacturing and transport logistics has pushed the schedule out so I think we are looking at after Christmas now. We are just finalising the plan and will share a full production update soon. 1 5 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I'm going to treat mine as a late Christmas present*, then! Steve S * to myself!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, cornelius said: Apologies for the delay getting back to you on this. Following the review of the decorated samples we opted to make some minor internal changes to the model to optimise performance of the sound fitted version, this along with unpredictable manufacturing and transport logistics has pushed the schedule out so I think we are looking at after Christmas now. We are just finalising the plan and will share a full production update soon. With Chinese New Year February 1st, then if not on the water in January at the latest, then delivery will more likely be late in the first quarter 2022, if not into April. To be shipped by January then production would need to commence in the next few weeks or even days. Thus "after Christmas" seems more like possibly five or six months from now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted November 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2021 I feel sure it will be worth the wait, however long that might be. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, GWR-fan said: With Chinese New Year February 1st, then if not on the water in January at the latest, then delivery will more likely be late in the first quarter 2022, if not into April. To be shipped by January then production would need to commence in the next few weeks or even days. Thus "after Christmas" seems more like possibly five or six months from now. No doubt all of the above will have already been the subject of discussion by our manufacturers so perhaps no need to speculate further. Personally, I would prefer a delay due to ironing out possible issues prior to delivery than an item rushed out with unresolved problems, for us to discover on purchase, let alone the potential for reputational damage to the brand. Just be patient. It's their first loco after all. We all want it to be right. Rob Edited November 3, 2021 by NHY 581 Sausage hooves 3 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willjam39 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 19 hours ago, cornelius said: Apologies for the delay getting back to you on this. Following the review of the decorated samples we opted to make some minor internal changes to the model to optimise performance of the sound fitted version, this along with unpredictable manufacturing and transport logistics has pushed the schedule out so I think we are looking at after Christmas now. We are just finalising the plan and will share a full production update soon. Thanks I look forward to them arriving on these shores. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 03/11/2021 at 17:41, cornelius said: Apologies for the delay getting back to you on this. .......... we are looking at after Christmas now. We are just finalising the plan and will share a full production update soon. Any progress on an update ? ....................... the website still suggests delivery this year - which could, theoretically, be in the week after Christmas - but unless they're on the boat now I'd guess somewhat longer after the festivities ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted December 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2021 Sorry for the delay responding to this - we have been awaiting a final sample model with a couple of small but important changes, in order to be able to sign off full production. This obviously has a knock-on effect on the schedule and our estimate for delivery of the Victory is now going to be Summer 2022. Full details on what we changed, and why, can be found in our latest email update: https://mailchi.mp/a513a3ea1d58/a-later-victory-sounds-sweeter As we note in the update we're disappointed to push out the expected date for the loco, but we have made these changes for good reasons and the results should be worth it. 4 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted December 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2021 The Victory is shaping up to be a fantastic model, and I cannot wait for it! But if a delay means we get a even better model at the end of it then great, can't see a problem. Whether it comes now, in 6 months or 1 year it won't make me any less excited for it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, cornelius said: Sorry for the delay responding to this - we have been awaiting a final sample model with a couple of small but important changes, in order to be able to sign off full production. This obviously has a knock-on effect on the schedule and our estimate for delivery of the Victory is now going to be Summer 2022. Full details on what we changed, and why, can be found in our latest email update: https://mailchi.mp/a513a3ea1d58/a-later-victory-sounds-sweeter As we note in the update we're disappointed to push out the expected date for the loco, but we have made these changes for good reasons and the results should be worth it. I'm glad they are delayed. I'm always skint after Christmas! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, cornelius said: Sorry for the delay responding to this - we have been awaiting a final sample model with a couple of small but important changes, in order to be able to sign off full production. This obviously has a knock-on effect on the schedule and our estimate for delivery of the Victory is now going to be Summer 2022. Full details on what we changed, and why, can be found in our latest email update: https://mailchi.mp/a513a3ea1d58/a-later-victory-sounds-sweeter As we note in the update we're disappointed to push out the expected date for the loco, but we have made these changes for good reasons and the results should be worth it. Is the sound chip located above the wheels? I'm wondering if it will get in the way of EM or P4 wheels? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted December 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2021 The chip is above the wheels but well clear of them - the DCC socket is mounted on the side of chassis block within the side tank so the rebate in the footplate allows the body to fit over it when you're reuniting body and chassis. You can see in this close up the socket inside the tank above the middle axle. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 I'm very excited, again. Just like the first time I set eyes on the first Engineering sample of the Planet Industrials Victory, I've got the same feeling as a kid in a sweet shop... Paul Chetter has finished working on our sound project, and I've been testing and evaluating the final sound file in the revised Engineering sample with new speaker enclosure. The sound reproduction is superb, the feature list incredible and the experience as close to driving the real thing with a hand held electronic controller in OO as you can get! In the video I share the features we've included with Paul's help and guidance, along with the way the model performs, sounds and is controlled. I particularly love the way you get a mechanical clanking and banging as you back off the throttle whilst the model 'coasts' under a delayed deceleration before you apply the brakes, yourself, to bring it to a stop. This is the future! I'm a total DCC sound convert! I hope you enjoy the video, please consider subscribing to the Planet Industrials channel. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, James Hilton said: I'm very excited, again. Just like the first time I set eyes on the first Engineering sample of the Planet Industrials Victory, I've got the same feeling as a kid in a sweet shop... Paul Chetter has finished working on our sound project, and I've been testing and evaluating the final sound file in the revised Engineering sample with new speaker enclosure. The sound reproduction is superb, the feature list incredible and the experience as close to driving the real thing with a hand held electronic controller in OO as you can get! In the video I share the features we've included with Paul's help and guidance, along with the way the model performs, sounds and is controlled. I particularly love the way you get a mechanical clanking and banging as you back off the throttle whilst the model 'coasts' under a delayed deceleration before you apply the brakes, yourself, to bring it to a stop. This is the future! I'm a total DCC sound convert! I hope you enjoy the video, please consider subscribing to the Planet Industrials channel. James beside himself with excitement! (Double post.) The sound is very good and I like the imitation of cut off. Whilst there is only one cut off setting, to my knowledge, this is the first time controllable cut off has been provided in British DCC. Great stuff! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 I've added another video to YouTube, this time demonstrating our DCC sound model running on straight DC... People who have ordered a straight DC or DCC silent model can upgrade by emailing info@planetindustrials.co.uk including their order number, and Steve will sort out the upgrade. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I have a couple of these on order with sound and I’m looking forward to them more than ever. The more so because I’ve paid in full, so I have no worry about where the cash comes from when they arrive! Tantalising videos! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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