Fredo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Does anyone know if there are Kits available anywhere for MDO and HUO wagons as I just want single ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbos Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Fredo said: Does anyone know if there are Kits available anywhere for MDO and HUO wagons as I just want single ones? Peco Parkside make two MDO kits, the riveted 21t mineral and the 1970’s rebodied 21t mineral. Nice wee kits that go together quite easily, a picture of some I’ve made. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Buy three and sell two as there must be others who just want one! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Thanks Turbos, do you know what the difference is between a 1/107 and a 1/110 wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Fredo said: Does anyone know if there are Kits available anywhere for MDO and HUO wagons as I just want single ones? Not exactly what you want but the Chivers MDV is also available: https://www.five79.co.uk/RC473/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Fredo said: Thanks Turbos, do you know what the difference is between a 1/107 and a 1/110 wagon. http://www.ltsv.co.uk/w_profile_042.php Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Fredo said: Thanks Turbos, do you know what the difference is between a 1/107 and a 1/110 wagon. Paul Bartlett's Photographs | BR 21ton double door unfit minerals - 1950 design MDO diags 1/107 (Weld) & 1/110 (rivet) (zenfolio.com) https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/mdo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) And the model top right of Turbos photo is of the higher-sided 24.5 ton Diagram 1/115. To summarise: Diagram 1/107 (unfitted, MDO) - No kit, r-t-r announced by Accurascale. Diagram 1/110 (unfitted, MDO) Kit, Parkside-Peco, Diagram 1/115 (unfitted), Kit, Parkside-Peco, r-t-r announced by TMC . Diagram 1/120 (fitted, MDV), Kit, Chivers, r-t-r announced by Accurascale. John Edited January 24, 2021 by Dunsignalling 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: Diagram 1/115 (unfitted), Kit, Parkside-Peco, r-t-r announced by TMC Whatever happened to the TMC one, is it still happening? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Whatever happened to the TMC one, is it still happening? According to their website, towards the end of the year. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbos Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: And the model top right of Turbos photo is of the higher-sided 24.5 ton Diagram 1/115. To summarise: Diagram 1/107 (unfitted, MDO) - No kit, r-t-r announced by Accurascale. Diagram 1/110 (unfitted, MDO) Kit, Parkside-Peco, Diagram 1/115 (unfitted), Kit, Parkside-Peco, r-t-r announced by TMC . Diagram 1/120 (fitted, MDV), Kit, Chivers, r-t-r announced by Accurascale. John The Chivers Diagram 1/120 MDV kit is now produced by Five79 kits. All of the above kits are ideal for adding a bit of variety into the r-t-r rakes. Brian. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) How about producing this one as a Limited Edition? Coalite, Grimethorpe 1983 Edited January 24, 2021 by montyburns56 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 18:43, montyburns56 said: How about producing this one as a Limited Edition? Coalite, Grimethorpe 1983 A train of those would sit nicely behind the Andy Capp compound. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophead45143 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 18:43, montyburns56 said: How about producing this one as a Limited Edition? Coalite, Grimethorpe 1983 That is not a diagram 1/107 though, it's one of the early 1970's welded bodies that were fitted to older, non life expired chassis. In this case, an LNER style 21t hopper. These wagons have also never been available as a kit or rtr, and are subtly different from the dia 1/107 in that the welded stanchions are quite basic. I made four of these using a Parkside dia 1/110 as the basis, with plasticard strips to represent the welded features. There are probably several ways you could do this, this was mine: Regards, Cameron 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2021 Does anybody have evidence of MDO’s being used in the early BR steam era please ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eddie the dog said: Does anybody have evidence of MDO’s being used in the early BR steam era please ? They weren't called MDOs then, that classification only came in with the TOPS system. The unfitted 21-ton minerals, to Diagram 1/107 in the context of the Accurascale models, first appeared in 1950-51, so it depends on how early is your definition of "early BR". The reference of the pack I've ordered for the 1950s period begins ACC1081 The first post in this thread includes three CAD images of the relevant grey livery and markings. John Edited January 30, 2021 by Dunsignalling 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2021 Thanks John, yes, that’s the time frame that I was thinking of too. Could you name specific loco classes please , 9f etc ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Eddie the dog said: Thanks John, yes, that’s the time frame that I was thinking of too. Could you name specific loco classes please , 9f etc ? Which part of BR are you thinking about, different loco classes would have worked with 21t mineral wagons in different coalfield areas, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) By the mid-late fifties, 21-tonners could be seen in general coal traffic/local goods yards, though many were still used in block trains. This also applied to Loco coal wagons; I recently came across a (published) photo of an LNER example (as per the Parkside kit) still black, and just with "Loco" painted out, in the sidings at Axminster. Never thought I'd have an excuse to build one of those! With the loss of local goods yards in the early-mid sixties, they began to revert to larger groupings. John Edited January 30, 2021 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2021 By far the largest class of steam haulage we’ve found in photographs are the Standard 8F class... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: By the mid-late fifties, 21-tonners could be seen in general coal traffic/local goods yards, though many were still used in block trains. This also applied to Loco coal wagons; I recently came across a (published) photo of an LNER example (as per the Parkside kit) still black, and just with "Loco" painted out, in the sidings at Axminster. Never thought I'd have an excuse to build one of those! With the loss of local goods yards in the early-mid sixties, they began to revert to larger groupings. John I'll raise you one on that, John; in the very late 1960s/early 1970, I saw one of the LNER wagons at Llanelli, freshly repainted in grey, the black patch redone, as was the large 'Loco Coal' branding. The area from Swansea westwards saw a disproportionally high percentage of the 21 tonners; partially because of the large numbers used in shipping coal from Swansea docks, and also because the two local power stations used rotary tipplers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Fat Controller said: I'll raise you one on that, John; in the very late 1960s/early 1970, I saw one of the LNER wagons at Llanelli, freshly repainted in grey, the black patch redone, as was the large 'Loco Coal' branding. The area from Swansea westwards saw a disproportionally high percentage of the 21 tonners; partially because of the large numbers used in shipping coal from Swansea docks, and also because the two local power stations used rotary tipplers I've also seen a photo including a teasingly partial view of one of the much rarer LNER slope-sided Loco coal wagons in general coal traffic over the Somerset & Dorset line... I suspect the possibilities (and thus the wish-lists) may be almost endless. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2021 Thank you all for response and help :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) I don't really understand the discussion about the pre BR double door minerals, they did, of course survive well into the 1960s with some years later. This has plenty of BR era photos. It has a lovely full page photo of an LNER slope side 2 door Diag 125 from August 1968. Paul Edited January 30, 2021 by hmrspaul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, hmrspaul said: I don't really understand the discussion about the pre BR double door minerals, they did, of course survive well into the 1960s with some years later. This has plenty of BR era photos. It has a lovely full page photo of an LNER slope side 2 door Diag 125 from August 1968. Paul Agreed, but as stated in the text, there were only ever 180 of those, so relatively few of us would ever have clapped eyes on an example. I'd love a model of one but don't really see it as r-t-r material. I was interested to see in the caption for the cited photo, how late the K suffix was introduced. A bit of retouching required on a few of my wagons... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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