Mark Saunders Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Covkid said: Can't comment on this directly because I cannot recall seeing an MDW. However, I would like to point out that piped vehicles generally had the casting on the bufferbeam painted white to signify a piped or "blow through" vehicle, and many if not all didn't actually have a valve. The reason for this was that air piped vehicles could not form the rear vehicles of an air braked train, because the auto air brake would not work. So you couldn't close the cock on an air piped vehicle. i can only assume MDWs followed the same convention. so I would plump for a white painted metal casting on the buffer beam with the rubber hose attached. I recall that later conversations of wagons to through air pipes did not have the cock on as a precaution against marshalling at the rear of a air braked train and the error not being noticed! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark Saunders said: I recall that later conversations of wagons to through air pipes did not have the cock on as a precaution against marshalling at the rear of a air braked train and the error not being noticed! Were these 50mph Mark ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 hours ago, russ p said: Were these 50mph Mark ? I think they were as I seem to recall HTV’s were 50mph, just need an old copy of the White Oages to confirm! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: I think they were as I seem to recall HTV’s were 50mph, just need an old copy of the White Oages to confirm! 1987 reissued page show 50 mph for HTV in all load states (I haven't bothered to check any older pages as they were no doubt the same). MDO and MDV were 45 mph. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: I think they were as I seem to recall HTV’s were 50mph, just need an old copy of the White Oages to confirm! 7 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: 1987 reissued page show 50 mph for HTV in all load states (I haven't bothered to check any older pages as they were no doubt the same). MDO and MDV were 45 mph. Wow. Everyday is a school day. I didn't know that. Wonder if the possible lower c of g due to product in the chutes might have allowed that, but judging by the way the Tope behaved I would have doubted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2021 Having transferred our 21 tonners to Warley stock boxes for easy transport SWMBO found a use in the sewing den for those lovely boxes…. 5 1 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I haven’t read through all 20 pages of this thread but has anyone asked why these wagons only have a lamp iron at one end? Should the unfitted wagons have lamp irons at all? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2021 8 hours ago, bubbles2 said: I haven’t read through all 20 pages of this thread but has anyone asked why these wagons only have a lamp iron at one end? Should the unfitted wagons have lamp irons at all? Just one of many cock ups on these wagons regrettably. Mike 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted December 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2021 11 hours ago, bubbles2 said: I haven’t read through all 20 pages of this thread but has anyone asked why these wagons only have a lamp iron at one end? Should the unfitted wagons have lamp irons at all? Hi @bubbles2, Yes, a poor oversight on our part that will corrected in run two under our new project management team. Cheers! Fran 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 02:53, Mark Saunders said: I think they were as I seem to recall HTV’s were 50mph, just need an old copy of the White Oages to confirm! On 21/11/2021 at 11:00, The Stationmaster said: 1987 reissued page show 50 mph for HTV in all load states (I haven't bothered to check any older pages as they were no doubt the same). MDO and MDV were 45 mph. The 1979 and 1983 reissued white pages I have scanned show 21.5T mineral and hopper waggons, both fitted and unfitted as 50MPH in all conditions. Paul J. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 22:53, bubbles2 said: I haven’t read through all 20 pages of this thread but has anyone asked why these wagons only have a lamp iron at one end? Should the unfitted wagons have lamp irons at all? Lamp Irons can be unplugged from the unfitted wagons quite simply ... ... though they seem to have left a rusty patch on each of my wagons ! Closer-to-scale gauge conversion should be covered by an EMGS Manual Page in the New Year. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted December 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2021 18 of these beauties will be Hauling scrap around Chesborough North soon. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted December 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2021 The MDVs have had their first outing on Chesborough North today running empty behind 31102 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2021 Nice bit of weathering is that. Mike. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted December 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2021 Scrap Loads 8 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Krieghoff Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 16/10/2021 at 11:01, cessna152towser said: I am eagerly anticipating the MC Metals wagons from Rails of Sheffield. Next step will be to find or fabricate suitable scrap metal loads. Ive just had a surprise Christmas present from my wife, the lovely MC mineral wagon limited edition from Rails. Superb surprise and well done to my wife Yvonne 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Krieghoff said: Ive just had a surprise Christmas present from my wife, the lovely MC mineral wagon limited edition from Rails. Superb surprise and well done to my wife Yvonne I wonder if they will ever produce the ones that just got renumbered without the repaint? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieghoff Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just a shout out to the team at Accurascale for the efficient response to my message for replacement couplings for my Three MC Exclusive wagons. Messaged them and received a reply within 24hrs with a link to the web site. Ordered with no fuss whatsoever and FOC. Top service. They are on pre-order so i suspect they will be coming direct from the manufacturer when available. Thanks chaps 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) I must say that now I've eventually started the weathering process, I'm even more impressed although a few door bang thingies fell off and one loose handbrake, all easily rectified. I did my 6 MDO's first and noticed a subtle difference in the way paint went on compared with the MDV's (16 in total) so I assume that's down to grey plastic as opposed to a coat of bauxite. One surprise was how light the grey is compared with the MCO's from Barwell, I've darkened, with oils, two of my MDO's during the weathering process. I'll detail more about the weathering once I post pictures. Edited December 29, 2021 by w124bob 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophead45143 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, w124bob said: I must say that now I've eventually started the weathering process, I'm even more impressed although a few door bang thingies fell off and one loose handbrake, all easily rectified. I did my 6 MDO's first and noticed a subtle difference in the way paint went on compared with the MDV's (16 in total) so I assume that's down to grey plastic as opposed to a coat of bauxite. One surprise was how light the grey is compared with the MCO's from Barwell, I've darkened, with oils, two of my MDO's during the weathering process. I'll detail more about the weathering once I post pictures. The light grey is very accurate, particularly for the 1970's & 1980's (they look almost white in photos). The TMC / Bachmann MEO's are far too dark for comparison. I guess they didn't look as light when 'new' in the 1950's / 1960's however? Cameron Edited December 30, 2021 by Mophead45143 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mophead45143 said: The light grey is very accurate, particularly for the 1970's & 1980's (they look almost white in photos). The TMC / Bachmann MEO's are far too dark for comparison. I guess they didn't look as light when 'new' in the 1950's / 1960's however? Cameron Even the earlier grey on steel mineral wagons looked fairly light in colour when newly applied. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I took delivery of 6 MDO's and 15 MDV's a few months ago and have finally finished weathering them, so here's a few pictures. The ultimate intention is to have two trains, a fully fitted MDV/HTV combo and a mixed bag of MCO/MCV/MDV/MDO unfitted . Loads are chopped up foam from Heljan and Dapol loco packaging, Dapol has slightly more sparkle! I will retrim a couple of the over loaded wagons. Pictures taken on Dewsbury Midland. 16 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I must say that the weathered wagons in the photos above look absolutely fantastic! I clearly have a lot to learn in that regard. (Of course, I also have to say how much better the trains would look if close-coupled. The wagons already have the mounts for it; it only takes a change of coupler.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 5, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2022 They look gorgeous and what we love to see; modellers adding their own hallmarks to our models. Bravo! Fran 4 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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