Staffordshire Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Apologies for wide scope of this post, but I am hoping to find the answers to some questions regarding 4mm Kits for SR EMU's and BR DMU's Breaking it down ...... * Are there any Kit Manufacturers who produce kits for SR EMU's of the 1950's an 1960's ?? * I believe 'Phoenix kits' used to produce quite a range, are these still available, if yes, details appreciated. * Are there any kits available for the BR DMU Class 123 or 124 ? Many thanks, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2020 For SR EMUs, there is quite a lot that you can do with parts from Replica Railways. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hi. There are southern EMU kit's from Ayjay . http://www.southernregionmodels.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2020 Kits for SR EMUs from Roxey Mouldings also fit into your timeframe. Roxey Mouldings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Check out Silver Fox for class 123/124 and quite a few other DMU models available in kit form or RTR www.silverfoxmodels.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted November 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2020 Several variants available from Dart Castings too - https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt.php#CarriageComponents-Sides 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Plus Dart castings have a few https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt.php#CarriageComponents-Ends 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) I only look'ed up phoenix kits this week . As i want a kit myself from them. Go on the Southern railway E group And download a catalogue . Or phone them on 01636 361638. Hope this helps you .Alf Edited November 10, 2020 by crompton 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 20:33, crompton 33 said: I only look'ed up phoenix kits this week . As i want a kit myself from them. Go on the Southern railway E group And download a catalogue . Or phone them on 01636 361638. Hope this helps you .Alf Excuse my ignorance, how do I download a 'phoenix' catalogue ?? Cheers, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Bit of mix up here. Two different groups/societies. The Phoenix stuff is available from the Southern Railways Group. Link to catalogue on this page. http://srg.org.uk/phoenix/#:~:text=Phoenix coach kits are successors to the 4mm,available separately include plastic and etched brass items. The Southern Railway E Mail Group is different. Very useful website. https://sremg.org.uk/home.html Has a good list of what kits have been available though. Worth noting many are no longer made but are quite easily found on the second hand market. Usually for a good price as many people want RTR instead. https://sremg.org.uk/model/kits_etc.html Also worth a mention are DC kits. Many also out of stock, but do come up on eBay and other places for a reasonable price. https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=131_224 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Worsley Works do a good range of etched sides etc. for Southern electric and diesel electric stock. You will need to source the rest of the parts, perhaps using suitable Bachmann and Hornby items, or parts from the MJT/Dart or Replica ranges www.worsleyworks.co.uk/4mm/4mm_Southern_Electric.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 13 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Bit of mix up here. Two different groups/societies. The Phoenix stuff is available from the Southern Railways Group. Link to catalogue on this page. http://srg.org.uk/phoenix/#:~:text=Phoenix coach kits are successors to the 4mm,available separately include plastic and etched brass items. The Southern Railway E Mail Group is different. Very useful website. https://sremg.org.uk/home.html Has a good list of what kits have been available though. Worth noting many are no longer made but are quite easily found on the second hand market. Usually for a good price as many people want RTR instead. https://sremg.org.uk/model/kits_etc.html Also worth a mention are DC kits. Many also out of stock, but do come up on eBay and other places for a reasonable price. https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=131_224 Jason Jason This year I have obtained a couple of Phoenix SR coach kits, some months ago I contacted the mail order dept as I needed a couple of guards duckets (the sides have cut outs), these were duly supplied, I don't think there are many sides left but the castings are very useful As it happens in an eBay lot I won last week there were most of the parts for a MJT 2 car EPB (sides, ends, chassis, 1 roof and some bogie parts) and a nearly complete set of etchings for an EMU Models 2 NOL driving trailer car, its missing the castings and both ends, but as it happens Dave Ellis at Roxey mouldings took over this kit and the driver ends are a spare which Dave sells and I guess if I speak with him nicely he would have a look round for some castings and instructions. As you say the MJT are not kits but a set of parts to form a kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kirk Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Back in the mists of time I produced a 2Bil kit. This went to Colin Ashby but fortunately did not go on to the dreaded non producing them firm in Somerset like my LNER coach range. I believe that the moulds went to Phoenix so it is probably still available but for most people replaced by a RTR set from Hornby. There was a thread on here about building /detailing a kit a few years ago. best wishes, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ian Kirk said: Back in the mists of time I produced a 2Bil kit. This went to Colin Ashby but fortunately did not go on to the dreaded non producing them firm in Somerset like my LNER coach range. I believe that the moulds went to Phoenix so it is probably still available but for most people replaced by a RTR set from Hornby. There was a thread on here about building /detailing a kit a few years ago. best wishes, Ian Your 2BIL kit is listed on the "exKirk" list at Phoenix paints: https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/exkirkmultiple 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Ah! those 2BIL kits, they got me into 3rd rail EMUs. I picked up two at a very good price quite some years back. They went together well and ran (with Tenshodo power) on my first EMU layout for quite a few shows. I still have them stored away. I then got another along with the conversion kit to make it into a 2HAL, but then Mr Hornby brought out their 2HAL! So it got stored unmade. Oh well, then the same thing happened with Charlie's EMU and DEMU kits. So all in all quite few languishing projects!!! Edited December 15, 2020 by johnb typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Ian Kirk said: Back in the mists of time I produced a 2Bil kit. This went to Colin Ashby but fortunately did not go on to the dreaded non producing them firm in Somerset like my LNER coach range. I believe that the moulds went to Phoenix so it is probably still available but for most people replaced by a RTR set from Hornby. There was a thread on here about building /detailing a kit a few years ago. best wishes, Ian Yes. I've bought some of the coach kits recently. Still good quality. They also sell parts from the kits separately which can be useful. That's the other Phoenix which is the paint maker which can be a bit confusing in that both of them supply coach kits and parts. https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/exkirk Useful page about the Kirk Southern kits here. https://sremg.org.uk/model/kirkashby-maun_01.html Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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