Railfreight1998 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-54888642 No injuries thankfully. Think it was this service - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H03611/2020-11-11/detailed Edited November 11, 2020 by Railfreight1998 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) More photos in this report, including one which shows how much of the station throat has been affected by this derailment. Mostly V tanks - some probably 40 and more years old. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/all-lines-through-sheffield-blocked-as-freight-train-derails/ar-BB1aUexl?ocid=msedgntp Paul Edited November 11, 2020 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynJPearson Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Not sure that the reporter covering this on the Nottingham Post website is too familiar with the railways, given the caption. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2020 That's Ok, the BBC report refers to carriages. Jonathan 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busmansholiday Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Few pics on the net already. 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2020 That’s the sort of accident that happens on my model railway. 6 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just add water for paved track ! Good in that the derailement was enough to quickly part brake pipe and stop train. Makes making good much easier but still not much fun. No doubt the RAIB can make a good 50 pages of reading later ... Hopefully recovery will be quicker, shame no Tinsley crane to hand ! Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) I’m guessing the wagon thats flipped, is the culprit looking at the angle of its axle. looks like a fairly low speed event. Didnt even think these wagons were still going. Edited November 11, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busmansholiday Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I’m guessing the wagon thats flipped, is the culprit looking at the angle of its axle. looks like a fairly low speed event. Didnt even think these wagons were still going. Interesting thing is that the third wagon behind the toppled one looks to be on the tracks up to the little used head shunt, not the northbound track like the ones in front of the toppled one. Network Rails pic from the other direction. Edited November 11, 2020 by Busmansholiday Added picture from station view. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfreight1998 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Didnt even think these wagons were still going. The dip tanks are very common here in Scotland on the flows out of Oxwellmains. I think they must be some of the oldest 4 wheel revenue wagons on the network by now (not saying that's related to this incident though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2020 Yeah I thought they'd all gone too. It really does belong on the "when the real thing looks like a model" thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, MartynJPearson said: Not sure that the reporter covering this on the Nottingham Post website is too familiar with the railways, given the caption. Given we have these in Yorkshire I assume the reporter has used one and thought that they had similar level comfort as a wagon. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Busmansholiday said: Interesting thing is that the third wagon behind the toppled one looks to be on the tracks up to the little used head shunt, not the northbound track like the ones in front of the toppled one. Network Rails pic from the other direction. its likely that the point (under the left hand wagon) is the culprit and it split the train 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-Miles Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) The reports say Cross Country not using the "Old Road" via Barrow Hill and Eckington. Is this because of lack of route knowledge or train paths? Sorry I typed the above based on the original post on the BBC news site which said Cross Country were terminating at Derby and Leeds or York. Other operators were bussing people from Chesterfield to Sheffield. Edited November 11, 2020 by John-Miles Change of operating procedures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2020 Mention of East Midlands trains not calling at Sheffield, so presumably using the south curve at Dore / Totley. You don't get too many chances to travel that as a passenger. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 30 years later and PCA’s are still misbehaving! Picture below from Darlington in 1990. Not my photo -photo from http://www.bdca.org.uk/gallery/index.php/Cowans-Sheldon/ADRC96700-Album 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Busmansholiday said: Few pics on the net already. Hi Busman, Look on the bright side, the tanks fell off the track near a road so at least they will have good access for a crane. Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Well if they will try running old Lima wagons on finescale track... 3 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 66603 was the train loco, according to Railrecord. Direction of travel is left to right as per most of the photos. So the next S&C unit are facing switches in D.O.T., located just about where that wagon looks to have hit the brick work. The right hand turn out leads from the platform loop to the main line and the left hand straight route leads to a siding road, which doesn’t look to be heavily used. All this means that following the 053 Facing Switch Inspection derailment hazards ,this is a classic derailment location, given the disproportionately used routes.. Heavily used / worn LH stock fronts and LH switch rail, in the facing direction. Flange climb possible... Add to this mix the PCA cement tank wagon, which on occasion is about as stable as a pig on stilts, and it has potential...... But who knows....at least no one injured or killed. Edited November 11, 2020 by Grizz Spellllllling....again....doh. 1 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJ Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I’m imagining cement spilling out and setting over the track! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, TomJ said: I’m imagining cement spilling out and setting over the track! Ta Da .....Instant Slab Track Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Bit of a blessing that the wagons are strong enough to be pressurised, as it looks like even the one on its side hasn't split open and spilt cement powder all over. Definitely a loaded train, as it was going Hope to Dewsbury. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Robert Shrives said: Just add water for paved track ! Good in that the derailement was enough to quickly part brake pipe and stop train. Makes making good much easier but still not much fun. No doubt the RAIB can make a good 50 pages of reading later ... Hopefully recovery will be quicker, shame no Tinsley crane to hand ! Robert Who said the brake pipe parted? Even the wagon on it's side is still coupled to the adjacent ones with brake pipes connected: 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, adb968008 said: Didnt even think these wagons were still going 7 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Mostly V tanks - some probably 40 and more years old 10807 visible in the pic above is from a batch built 1979-1981. I don't know if I've noticed any 4-digit ones on the Hope runs recently, which were 1973-4 - have they all gone? (Dates from the lists at LTSV) I have noticed no. 11111 though! More on the derailment via National Rail at: https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/259873.aspx leading to Network Rail's pics at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_9sU0PL10Jid1YDnpd_8ZDpNqOFUVzQe Edited November 11, 2020 by eastwestdivide 11111 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfreight1998 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, stewartingram said: Heavy cement train? Good job DP2 wasn't still around then..... I hope that's not a joke. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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