Moderators AY Mod Posted November 12, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2020 The partnership of Locomotion Models and Rails of Sheffield will today (12th November 2020) at 1200 (Noon) announce a new ready to run locomotive. This model has never previously been available in ready to run form in OO Scale. Quote The announcement would normally have been made in front of invited guests but unfortunately the current situation resulted in us having to seek alternative ways of communicating this exciting news to you. We are delighted that Hornby Magazine volunteered to film the announcement for us and you can come back at 1200 to see us reveal what the partnership of Locomotion Models and Rails of Sheffield will be producing next in conjunction with Bachmann Europe Plc. We look forward to you joining us. 4 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 12, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2020 NEW OO LOCOMOTIVE SETS A PRECEDENT The partnership of Locomotion Models and Rails of Sheffield has today (12th November 2020) announced that they have commissioned Bachmann Europe Plc to produce a brand new OO scale model of the London & North Western Railway Improved Precedent Class 2-4-0 locomotive. This locomotive has never been released before as a ready to run OO Scale product and is currently at the livery approval stage, with delivery expected next Summer. Prototype Information Technological improvements prompted the LNWR‘s CME F. W. Webb to replace 96 of the 6’6” Curved Link ‘Newtons’ and 62 of the 6’6” Straight Link ‘Precedents’ with locomotives featuring thicker frames and 150 PSI boilers. These emerged between 1887 and 1901 and became known as ‘Improved Precedents’. Though new, an accountancy contrivance meant they were considered ‘renewals’ and kept the names and numbers of the locomotives they replaced. Gaining the nickname ‘Jumbos’ or ’Big/Large Jumbos’ because of their performance, withdrawals of the ‘Improved Precedents’ started in 1905 with the London, Midland and Scottish Railway inheriting 76 at the 1923 grouping. The last was withdrawn in 1934. No. 790 ‘Hardwicke’ was the only example to be preserved in 1931, having become famous during the ‘Races to the North’ in 1895. It ran between Crewe and Carlisle at an average of 67¼ MPH, a record which stood for 40 years thus assuring ‘Hardwicke’ a place in British railway history. Another member of the Class No. 955 ‘Charles Dickens’ clocked up over 2 million miles, another record for a steam locomotive that has never been beaten. The model The OO Scale model has been developed for Locomotion Models and Rails of Sheffield by Bachmann Europe Plc. The model incorporates a die-cast body and chassis with a set of optional traction tyre-fitted driving wheels for increased haulage capacity – (crankpin tools and spare traction tyres will be available via Bachmann Stockists). The model features a coreless motor, with power pick up from both the locomotive and tender wheels. Mounted inside the tender is a 21 Pin DCC decoder socket and a 11mm x 15mm ‘sugar cube’ speaker. All versions feature a fully detailed back-head whilst there are numerous tooling options enabling the accurate portrayal of specific locomotives during the chosen time period. Two boiler types are modelled, either with or without wash-out plugs, and both cowled Ramsbottom Safety Valves and Ross Pop Safety Valves have been catered for. There is a representation of the inside motion whilst the front driving wheels can be modelled with either leaf or coil springing as the prototype dictates. Options are also available for plain or fluted coupling rods. Two whistle variants can be seen covering a single whistle on the roof, or two whistles on locos where alarm gear is fitted. A working fall plate between loco and tender is provided whilst the locomotive can have either Webb or Cook style buffers and two types of lamp bracket are modelled – LNWR lamp sockets or the LMS style lamp irons. Four exclusive edition locomotives are being produced as follows: For Locomotion Models LNWR ‘Hardwicke’ No. 790 in LNWR Black (Pristine) as preserved as part of the National Collection. Currently on display at Locomotion, Shildon For Rails of Sheffield No. 1673 Lucknow’ in LNWR Black livery No. 5036 ‘Novelty’ in LMS Crimson livery No. 5018 ‘Talavera’ in LMS Black livery See The recommended retail price of the model is £220 and can be pre-ordered now with a deposit of £30 from www.locomotionmodels.com for ‘Hardwicke’ in preserved condition whilst ‘Lucknow’, ‘Novelty’ and ‘Talavera’ will be available through www.railsofsheffield.com 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 Cracking! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) Another indication that perhaps pre group is now the ‘thing’... Edited November 12, 2020 by PMP 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltonparva Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Deposit paid. Withdrawn 5 years before my period, but what the Hell. Rule 1 applies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburgt Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, PMP said: Another indication that perhaps pre group is now the ‘thing’... Yes, for sure. But mostly only the locomotives. I hope the choices for pré-grouping coaches will also increase. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 I am now £30 poorer..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckinneyc Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Absolutely stunning! Do I get one to keep my Stirling Single company?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 Not for me personally, but still a nice looking model. I guess Peco will be happy, with more coaches required. Nice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin242 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I was hoping this would happen. Having helped in small way with restoring the engine to steam at Carnforth with the late Tony Chalmers in the 1970's Hardwicke is simply a must have. So an order placed. It should look well leaving Windermere with a train of Hattons new coaches. Something to look forward to in 2021 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, jburgt said: Yes, for sure. But mostly only the locomotives. I hope the choices for pré-grouping coaches will also increase. Hattons are doing their best to encourage us. If and when sales of those are seen to take off, the 'real thing' may start to emerge too. Pre-Grouping has been in the RTR shadows for a long time. We shouldn't expect it to emerge into sunlight all at once. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) At last and much awaited by some of us who dropped more than a gentle hint a long time ago about including 'Hardwicke' in the NRM In Miniature range of models. And for no more than the cost of the 9 wagons which i have just ordered from another concern. Not entirely out of place for me but definitely out of timespan but who cares - money will inevitably go where mouth has been for a. good long time. it looks absolutely delectable and Bachmann look to have done an excellent job. It's going to look great even if any coaches behind it are most likely going to be generic rather than folk using the ex--Ratio LNWR kits Only one question - is the front end NEM pocket removable without resorting to cutting equipment? Edited November 12, 2020 by The Stationmaster 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Oh it's arrived, the secret Hatton's let out of the bag. Thought it might be a Locomotion project given Hardwicke is in the NRM. Excellent news, I'll be in for a few for my next LMS project. I would be tempted to renumber/rename one to "Sister Dora", I know she had 3" smaller driving wheels but if you can spot 1mm too much driving wheel on a model then go for it. Hopefully the cottage suppliers will be busy researching suitable names for the class, they had some absolute crackers adorning their splashers. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunny Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Would any have been in LMS crimson in the 1930s just before withdrawal or am I better going for a black one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Looks lovely. I'm very tempted. Why the white roof? from what I can see of the real thing, she has a black roof... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 12, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, wombatofludham said: I would be tempted to renumber/rename one to "Sister Dora" Good local connection there; stuff and mount on a plinth outside Wednesford station? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 12, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Why the white roof? from what I can see of the real thing, she has a black roof... The museum loco has a white roof; that's why the model does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, AY Mod said: Good local connection there; stuff and mount on a plinth outside Wednesford station? Actually I was thinking one for the next project, a North Wales themed ex LNWR terminus, with a nice rake of Hattons LNWR "generics" as an excursion train. I was also thinking it would look nice on Dolgellau showing the copper kettle types what a proper railway who don't name their locos after their mate's summer holiday homes looks like. 3 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, newbryford said: I am now £30 poorer..... I'm £236 poorer..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 Two threads to watch, this will be fun! I have a very wonky poor slide I took with my Dad’s camera from seeing it at Rainhill and it’s been a favourite since then. Only thing is now I have Coal Tanks and a Precedent how do I avoid another layout?! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 As it was an express passenger locomotive it would most have mostly hauled bogies of LNWR, LMS and even BR blue/grey Mark Ones when running in the late 1970s/early 1980s. The Ratio kits are perfect for it. I had a cab ride on the real one at Dinting in about 1980 so I'll probably buy Hardwicke as a minimum. Carriages. Apart from Ratio try Wizard as he has the old Chowbent range. Some are OOS stock at the moment, but I think that's down to supplier problems. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, AY Mod said: The museum loco has a white roof; that's why the model does. Thanks. I've just looked closely at pics of Flickr of 790 at Shildon and yes it does. When did it gain this? It certainly didn't during its period on the mainline in the 1970s/80s based on pictures available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, wombatofludham said: Oh it's arrived, the secret Hatton's let out of the bag. Thought it might be a Locomotion project given Hardwicke is in the NRM. I wouldn't say Hatton's let it out of the bag. Its fairly straight forwards to guess the logical what-would-be popular locomotives for entry into pre-grouping and some of these have now been made or announced. In fact Rails are slowly ticking them off... one by one... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Thanks. I've just looked closely at pics of Flickr of 790 at Shildon and yes it does. When did it gain this? It certainly didn't during its period on the mainline in the 1970s/80s based on pictures available. I can't be specific on things like dates. But I think it was for something to do with an exhibition on Royal Trains at York. Possibly in the 1990s. ISTR they had both Gladstone and Hardwicke in full Royal Train condition. Then they swapped Hardwicke for 5000. I have a vague memory that Hardwicke was looked at for a return to steam but it never happened. Jason Edited November 12, 2020 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Wow! Think I'm going to be compelled to buy one of those, a definite bout of OCD coming up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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