Guest Locomotion No. 3 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, LNWR lives on said: Dennis, This is a truly wonderful development for LNWR Modellers, for whom there is very little in the way of RTR available. I have one question which you may be able to help me with - is the production run of Hardwicke going to have the White Cab roof, or will it be black? Thank you David It is white as in its current condition at Shildon. Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I have a very nice Coal Tank to keep an Improved Precedent company but my G2As (“Super Ds”) are both in LMS black. As far as I can make out, Bachmann didn’t produce one in LNWR black. If that is right, now would be a good time to knock one out, I would have thought. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, No Decorum said: I have a very nice Coal Tank to keep an Improved Precedent company but my G2As (“Super Ds”) are both in LMS black. As far as I can make out, Bachmann didn’t produce one in LNWR black. If that is right, now would be a good time to knock one out, I would have thought. same here, how about the ROD as an addition? https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/rod-2-8-0-2406-lnwr-black/35-176 cheers, Keith 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, tractionman said: same here, how about the ROD as an addition? https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/rod-2-8-0-2406-lnwr-black/35-176 cheers, Keith Great minds think alike! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 Well, I'd say we're in luck, for now! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, turbos said: I’ve always wondered why the most numerous class of British steam locomotive never had an rtr model ever made, particularly as there’s a survivor. I wonder if the second most numerous class of British steam locomotive will ever have a rtr model made? Am I missing something here? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, turbos said: I wonder if the second most numerous class of British steam locomotive will ever have a rtr model made? Well, a DX - or perhaps rather an SDX - would make an excellent stablemate for the Precedent and Coal Tank. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis JB Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, maico said: Looks like an excellent fine scale model Gosh she just makes your mouth water doesn’t she? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 Rather an un-Woke set of names though! Sister Dora has been mentioned but how could one pass up such delights as Belted Will, Witch, Madge, Glowworm, The Auditor, Merrie Carlisle, Giraffe, or Mabel? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagrizz Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, No Decorum said: I have a very nice Coal Tank to keep an Improved Precedent company but my G2As (“Super Ds”) are both in LMS black. As far as I can make out, Bachmann didn’t produce one in LNWR black. If that is right, now would be a good time to knock one out, I would have thought. I know the history of the LNWR 0-8-0 class is rather complex, but did the version as made by Bachmann actually exist in LNWR days? Graham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis JB Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, JSpencer said: What? No BR coloured version? I want one for BR. Would No. 1673 Lucknow’ in LNWR Black livery make a good doner for BR black livery? (Well, someone had to ask!! ) Just ordered one from Locomotion, now when is Gladstone coming? This must be the first steam loco other than the rocket in 400 years that hasn’t appeared in BR black. Thank goodness, I need a break! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis JB Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, No Decorum said: I have a very nice Coal Tank to keep an Improved Precedent company but my G2As (“Super Ds”) are both in LMS black. As far as I can make out, Bachmann didn’t produce one in LNWR black. If that is right, now would be a good time to knock one out, I would have thought. 5 minutes ago, dagrizz said: I know the history of the LNWR 0-8-0 class is rather complex, but did the version as made by Bachmann actually exist in LNWR days? Graham I believe the prototypes are different, as annoying as it is. Additionally I don’t think pre-grouping was ever considered as anything more than a ‘niche’ market to pursue until a few years ago. If I had things my way and all that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis JB Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Well, a DX - or perhaps rather an SDX - would make an excellent stablemate for the Precedent and Coal Tank. Hm, I thought the DX was the most numerous. What is then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Otis JB said: Hm, I thought the DX was the most numerous. What is then? I think it is, having double-checked the numbers: DX: 943 WD: 935 Not all the WDs actually saw service in Britain so that number might not be considered valid but they were built at a grater rate - the WDs over three years, DX over five. But then again, all the DXs were built at one works, Crewe, whereas WDs were built at three. So it's debatable which represents the greater feat of manufacturing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 Looks a lovely model, and I really hope it sells well. Though there’s. Lot of missable sods on FB moaning About the cost and the lack of bearings for some reason. now for myself rule1 needs to be used but which one to order. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) Watched the launch video thinking I wouldn't need one but once I saw Talavera in LMS Black I was hooked! Just wondering now whether the Improved Precedent Class will give Bachmann the opportunity to look at the LNWR Cauliflower Class and several other LNWR locomotives that utilse the same tender? Edited November 12, 2020 by Garethp8873 Realised several LNWR locomotives use this tender and not just the Cauliflower Class. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Rather an un-Woke set of names though! Sister Dora has been mentioned but how could one pass up such delights as Belted Will, Witch, Madge, Glowworm, The Auditor, Merrie Carlisle, Giraffe, or Mabel? I've got a set of the most un-woke nameplates imaginable and they are for a GWR locomotive. 4017 Knight Of The Black Eagle PS. They're made by P C Models.... The GWR also had Japanese Monarch in the same class. Emperor Hirohito for those unaware... Edited November 12, 2020 by Steamport Southport 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagrizz Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 45 minutes ago, dagrizz said: I know the history of the LNWR 0-8-0 class is rather complex, but did the version as made by Bachmann actually exist in LNWR days? Graham I've just checked my own Bachmann model (49064) and it has a Belpaire firebox which were not fitted to these locos until after the Grouping. I do not know if Bachmann also produced a round topped boiler version. Graham 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synch Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Lovely thing to see, I had a feeling it might come to fruition and am very glad to see it! Sets a similar trend to the C1 and Brighton Atlantics in being the first of it's wheel arrangement RTR, let's hope there's more. One curiosity I had was to the LMS Crimson example, aside from what I believe is the first RTR example of this particular transitional livery, but I'm unsure if the wheels would have been fully painted? Was this typical of Crewe and/or the LMS prior to 1925/26? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Not Jeremy Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2020 That is just beautiful, amazing, fantastic, well done! And considering that the GEM kit cost seven pounds and six shillings back in 1968 it is also an absolute bargain. The equivalent price for the GEM kit today is just over £105, and that didn't include wheels, motor, paint or glue. We've never had it so good! I am even working on a new Wild Swan book at the moment which will complement this announcement quite nicely. And Andy Y has had a hand in it too! Maybe in time for Christmas.... Simon 23 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Not Jeremy said: I am even working on a new Wild Swan book at the moment which will complement this announcement quite nicely. Arrrggghhh even more damage . . 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncf231e Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Now I can do in 00 what I already did in gauge 1: Regards Fred 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Synch said: Lovely thing to see, I had a feeling it might come to fruition and am very glad to see it! Sets a similar trend to the C1 and Brighton Atlantics in being the first of it's wheel arrangement RTR, let's hope there's more. One curiosity I had was to the LMS Crimson example, aside from what I believe is the first RTR example of this particular transitional livery, but I'm unsure if the wheels would have been fully painted? Was this typical of Crewe and/or the LMS prior to 1925/26? This transitional livery was also uaed on two of the Bachmann L&YR Class 5s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) On 12/11/2020 at 12:21, phil gollin said: . Could someone please list the applicable dates for the 4 loco models, Using Loco Illustrated 121 as a source 1673 Lucknow May 1891 (date renewed). Was scrapped in Feb 1919. [$ -see edit below] 5036 Novelty - photoed dated 1924 so renumbered - was withdrawn July 1928 (probably still in same livery arrangement?) 5018 Talavera - carries the 1928 livery; loco was withdrawn Dec 1932 790 Hardwicke - the white roof has been applied since the loco was withdrawn from railtour use, c.1990s EDIT - [$] Info further down the thread, coal rails added by c 1896 so the model of 1673 is 1891-c 1896 Edited November 15, 2020 by Butler Henderson 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbos Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Talltim said: Am I missing something here? Sorry for my somewhat cryptic post, I’d been out for a walk after lunch and had been pondering why a rtr LNWR Precedent had never been made, (and various other questions that pop into my head). A somewhat surreal moment when I sat down with a cup of tea after my walk and looked at RMWeb only to discover this announcement, some of my train of thought from my earlier walk was in my post. We’re now only a couple of Pre-Grouping rtr model locos away from having all the 1888 ‘Race to the North’ types having been made. Great announcement! Brian. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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