Jerryatric Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I have the RTR Hornby Lord Nelson which struggles to pull much at all really. Smooth as anything else I have, but tugging capability is poor on my older layout. Do you happen to know if I can fit traction tyres to this loco or will I have to get new wheels if that is how I proceed? I'm assuming TT's are not just a band and they must locate on something? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Sounds like a weak motor magnet to me. Replace the motor from "bee_studio" seller online. About £2 each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryatric Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, 33C said: Sounds like a weak motor magnet to me. Replace the motor from "bee_studio" seller online. About £2 each. Did you not read what I wrote? I asked about traction tyres! Not about a seller called bee whatever ....sigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jerryatric said: Did you not read what I wrote? I asked about traction tyres! Not about a seller called bee whatever ....sigh If it struggles to pull, putting traction tyres on it is false economy. I have had the same problem due to the motor magnet field being very weak. Changing or remagnetizing the magnet (or renewing the motor), transforms the performance. And yes, i did read what you wrote..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryatric Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, 33C said: If it struggles to pull, putting traction tyres on it is false economy. I have had the same problem due to the motor magnet field being very weak. Changing or remagnetizing the magnet (or renewing the motor), transforms the performance. And yes, i did read what you wrote..... This is brand new from the box. Am I to assume then that Hornby cannot match a motor to its body???? Is that really my only option? A new motor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted November 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jerryatric said: This is brand new from the box. Am I to assume then that Hornby cannot match a motor to its body???? Is that really my only option? A new motor? I bought one new as well, and have no problem with hauling power. It will happily take 8-10 Maunsells or Bachmann MK1s round the layout. Suggest you try contacting Hornby about the issue if it's brand-new? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Could be suffering from the dreaded mazac rot, i.e. the chassis block is bulging and making everything tight. (Cheap chinese metal, like the class 31 problem.) Take the motor out and see if the chassis/gears/wheels/valve gear run smooth. It's not the end of the world. My Bullied suffered similarly so, stripped the chassis, filed the sides smooth, smeared superglue over the minor cracks and put it back together and she's now fine. Edited November 16, 2020 by 33C added detail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Hi all, You could try Bullfrog Snot where you would want to put the traction tyres. It is not cheap but works really well. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Send it back. Like RFS said mine can easily manage at least eight modern coaches. All other alternatives such as traction tyres and replacement motors are just papering over the fact you've got a faulty model which will probably get worse over the years. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandra Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 My Hornby Lord Nelson is rather feeble and will hardly pull 8 coaches. As this is a new locomotive it should certainly not need remagnetizing, nor is Mazak rot likely to be an issue, I do think Bullfrog Snot may be a solution. I recently tried this on a B17 and it worked very well. It’s a green liquid that you coat the driving wheels with. It dries very hard and acts like a traction tyre. I only coated the rear drivers for whilst the loco did pick up from both loco and tender, I didn’t want to restrict the pick up too much. Sandra 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2020 If you have 'tight' curves on your layout, that could be a problem. Most of these loco's will pull well on the straight/flat and if curves are no less than 36" . I have one of the new ones, (Hood), but have the luxury of 38/40" minimum curves and it will haul 10 modern RTR Bulleids and or Maunsells. Mind you, I make sure my coaches have damn fine running bogies as some are crap out of the box. However, as several have said, if it won't pull more than 4 (I add, even on tight curves), send it back after contacting Hornby. Sounds like yours could be duff, as sometimes Loco's are as the seller will rarely test run it and if it is off EBay then good luck with that mate. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandra Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Thanks for that. The curves on my layout aren’t that tight, I tried to keep the minimum radius down to 42”. It does now pull a six coach train but anything more and it really struggles on the straight or on curves. I think it may just be a poor example but you never know, with time it might improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2020 If the wheels slip under load then it's not the motor. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 You could try putting some extra weight in the engine to help it get better traction. Make sure that your wheels are not greasy. That may cause them to slip as well. And as I said try Bullfrog Snot on the rear drivers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D 844 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 It's worth checking the front bogie bracket for clearance, if it's too low it can take weight of front drivers. My first N15 would pull anything but my second and third didn't, after checking the brackets it was clearly in need of adjustment. The easiest way is just press on the chimney, if no dip, that your answer. I had the same problem on my first S15, the second one was fine but didn't haul as much as the N15 so weight was added and it now pull sixteen coaches, well worth it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2023 I wonder if Gerry Hattrick ever solved the problem, or just huffed off? P 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2023 His profile states that he last visited RMWeb in December 2020 so it would seem so... Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 2, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 27/11/2023 at 12:50, Mallard60022 said: I wonder if Gerry Hattrick ever solved the problem, or just huffed off? P I hope he didn't succumb to that Covid? He has no history of posts after this one! P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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