Derekstuart Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Now I've seen some prices get really silly when multiple bidders are losing all sense of reality, but an opening price set by the seller for £2,149 for a two car Bachmann Underground model. Am I missing something somewhere? Are they cast in gold or platinum? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/London-Underground-Bachmann-35-990-S-Stock-4-car-train-pack/164297562067?hash=item2640e5d7d3:g:C94AAOSwZRNfFJ5v 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, Derekstuart said: Now I've seen some prices get really silly when multiple bidders are losing all sense of reality, but an opening price set by the seller for £2,149 for a two car Bachmann Underground model. Am I missing something somewhere? Are they cast in gold or platinum? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/London-Underground-Bachmann-35-990-S-Stock-4-car-train-pack/164297562067?hash=item2640e5d7d3:g:C94AAOSwZRNfFJ5v Ah yes, but it does include postage ! Seriously though, that price must be a mistake, surely to goodness. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 It’s actually a four-car set - there are two more cars underneath the two that you can see in the picture. These sets have been turning up on eBay for large asking prices for some time now. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 Nothing unusual, it could even be said this ones a bit on the cheap side. Check the eBay madness thread for more. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2020 Some people more money than sense . Incredible 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Darius43 said: It’s actually a four-car set - there are two more cars underneath the two that you can see in the picture. These sets have been turning up on eBay for large asking prices for some time now. 6 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Nothing unusual, it could even be said this ones a bit on the cheap side. Check the eBay madness thread for more. Sorry, yes it's a four car. So only just over £300 per car. You're both right there- there are a few others for £500-£600, which seems excessive anyway. But £2,149? I mean common sense would say there's no point listing something for that price when there's several options 1/3 - 1/4 of the price. That said, I went past my local (currently closed- possibly permanently) model shop and I've seen a Bachmann Blue Pullman for £1,200, which seems about the normal price now. Things have changed in the past few years it seems. 5 hours ago, Legend said: Some people more money than sense . Incredible Indeed. Given what a lot of people say and do, especially at the moment, I'm inclined to think that would still apply to many even if they had NO money at all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, Derekstuart said: Sorry, yes it's a four car. So only just over £300 per car. You're both right there- there are a few others for £500-£600, which seems excessive anyway. But £2,149? I mean common sense would say there's no point listing something for that price when there's several options 1/3 - 1/4 of the price. That said, I went past my local (currently closed- possibly permanently) model shop and I've seen a Bachmann Blue Pullman for £1,200, which seems about the normal price now. Things have changed in the past few years it seems. Indeed. Given what a lot of people say and do, especially at the moment, I'm inclined to think that would still apply to many even if they had NO money at all. Isnt the Blue Pullman a full blown set complete with Dynamis Control system though . Agree its far too much money 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Legend said: Isnt the Blue Pullman a full blown set complete with Dynamis Control system though . Agree its far too much money Thanks for the info. I'd never heard of 'Dynamis' until you mentioned it. (I have now Go-Ducked it- every day is a learning day, it seems.) I have just found the Blue Pullman- with Dynamis system- for £800 in Rails. It's normal to find a bit of difference between retailers, but £400- 33%? That's a bit cheeky of my local shop. That said, I don't know what their terms were when they bought it in, though I can't see the wholesale price being sufficiently lower to Rails to warrant that, but I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 Bachmann's MRP was/is £950 for the Western Pullman set, so £1,200 does sound rather cheeky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) There is a notorious non paying bidder doing the rounds who has been bidding up these S Stock sets to ridiculous levels (over five grand for one set a few months back) and then never paying. See the separate thread in this section for details of this charlatan... Edited November 26, 2020 by John M Upton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Legend said: Some people more money than sense . Incredible Not really. It's not sold yet.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir TophamHatt Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 The one that went for £5000 the other month... I asked the seller if they got paid for it (they said they did). So I asked for the buyers username so I could contact them to make sure as something sounds fishy. No reply. I'm not cynical but unless it was being used by a TV studio, nobody is going to pay £5000 for the S-Stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 There has been a fair bit of chatter about this on the LT modelling Fecesbook group. Shill bidding, fake bids, and non-payers seem to be the norm. One chap put his on at a reasonable amount recently. It got bid up to stupid levels almost instantly, then sold to a non-payer. As TfL had a hard time selling off the last batch, it is doubtful they'd order another run from Bachmann. Shame really as LT modelling seems to be booming at the moment as something new and different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Sold for: £2,199.00 I wonder if the seller will get paid? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/London-Underground-Bachmann-35-990-S-Stock-4-car-train-pack-/164297562067?hash=item2640e5d7d3%3Ag%3AC94AAOSwZRNfFJ5v&nma=true&si=B3cnquTW1OJrUsfxDvHdIFVG%2F6M%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 19:51, Sir TophamHatt said: The one that went for £5000 the other month... I asked the seller if they got paid for it (they said they did). So I asked for the buyers username so I could contact them to make sure as something sounds fishy. No reply. I'm not cynical but unless it was being used by a TV studio, nobody is going to pay £5000 for the S-Stock. Funny you should mention that, just yesterday I was wondering how Pinewood Studios did the LT Underground Tube Train crash in Skyfall. It was quite spectactular, but I've no idea whether it was a model or CGI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 When prices get silly one has to wonder whether there is shill bidding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Funny you should mention that, just yesterday I was wondering how Pinewood Studios did the LT Underground Tube Train crash in Skyfall. It was quite spectactular, but I've no idea whether it was a model or CGI. It was a model - 1:1 scale... https://www.007.com/focus-week-skyfall-underground-chase/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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