mikeford2002uk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just wondered if anyone has seen an upto date release schedule for O and OO gauge models . I've been told of many models being pushed back to the end of 2021 or into 2022 such as the O class 47s and Mk2s Perhaps someone in the trade knows better detail if correct Longer time to save up though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Try looking on bens online interview. Class 40 was Spring I think followed by the 47. Probably a bit vague as it changes all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 hours ago, mikeford2002uk said: Perhaps someone in the trade knows better detail if correct Tower (and I'm sure others) usually publish any info they have on their websites, particularly around latest delivery expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 If Heljan know when items are to be available I believe we would know. The reality is that until the models are on a ship bound for the UK it's an unknown. Manufacturing in China is about who shouts loudest however, the volume is not measured acoustically but in US$. Experience over the last few yeas demonstrates that Chinese manufacturers are very fickle and money talks. Norman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I wonder how much a no deal Brexit will affect this. Heljan import their stuff to Denmark from China. Does this mean when its sent from Denmark to the UK it attracts a tariff. In which case Heljan need to import direct to the UK from china. Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted December 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, pwr said: Does this mean when its sent from Denmark to the UK it attracts a tariff. In which case Heljan need to import direct to the UK from china. Could this be linked to the distribution of certain Heljan originals via the EFE Rail brand? In other words channeled through the Bachmann supply chain? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 As far as I'm aware the WTO maximum tariff on "toys" is zero — so there isn't an issue. I doubt there is any direct connection between Brexit and EFE Rail either — more likely it gives Heljan access to wider markets and Bachmann something to make up for their inability to provide enough of their own products to sell — though that seems to be improving, given how many "new" products have been introduced in the last few weeks. Nevertheless, not one of the quarterly announcements from Bachmann has contained any newly tooled, previously unknown products on their own account (rather than as EFE). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 On 03/12/2020 at 22:05, mikeford2002uk said: Just wondered if anyone has seen an upto date release schedule for O and OO gauge models . I've been told of many models being pushed back to the end of 2021 or into 2022 such as the O class 47s and Mk2s Perhaps someone in the trade knows better detail if correct Longer time to save up though! I've received advice today, from Hattons, about the updated release dates for two of my orders for newly tooled Heljan 'oo' gauge products. GWR Railcar Jan to March 2021 Class 25 March to April 2021 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 23 hours ago, pwr said: I wonder how much a no deal Brexit will affect this. Heljan import their stuff to Denmark from China. Does this mean when its sent from Denmark to the UK it attracts a tariff. In which case Heljan need to import direct to the UK from china. Paul R As has been said, the import duty on scale model railway products is likely to be zero, the greater problem for retailers is the current method of UK retailer getting product from Heljan in Denmark, as Heljan have their distribution base in Denmark. While Denmark and UK were both in the EU and in 2020 for the UK transition arrangements, it was relatively straightforward as UK acquirers of goods from the EU, made their acquisition declaration via their VAT returns, and unless they were high value acquirers, they only had to declare the value of acquisitions within the tax period. However from January, UK retailers buying from Heljan in Denmark will have to import the consignment, which is likely to require a Customs import entry, this is still required for imports even where the import duty is zero. Retailers can get Heljan products from Gaugemaster, however according to my local retailer, Gaugemaster cannot supply new to market products for several weeks, so if the retailer wants to market new product on release, they have to buy from Heljan. Whether Heljan will look to set up a UK distribution, as Accurascale have done, we shall have to see. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, rembrow said: While Denmark and UK were both in the EU Norway is not a member state of the European Union (EU). However, it is associated with the Union through its membership of the European Economic Area (EEA), established in 1994. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 hours ago, rembrow said: I've received advice today, from Hattons, about the updated release dates for two of my orders for newly tooled Heljan 'oo' gauge products. GWR Railcar Jan to March 2021 Class 25 March to April 2021 I also had advice from Hatton's today: Heljan 45403Hel Class 45/1 'Peak' in BR blue with sealed beam marker lights - unnumbered £169.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us between July 2021 & September 2021 Heljan 4712 Class 47/0 47137 in BR blue with glazed headcode panels £186.95 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us between December 2021 & January 2022 Hope this is of interest! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 03/12/2020 at 22:05, mikeford2002uk said: ... I've been told of many models being pushed back to the end of 2021 or into 2022 such as the O class 47s and Mk2s ... An email from Hattons yesterday said the Mk2s were now expected January-March 2022. The Claytons have also been pushed again, but only to January-March 2021. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) Notification from Hattons is 47 and 56 now expected end of 2021 Edited December 10, 2020 by 47606odin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stringfingerling Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) Any news of the GWR Collett Goods for O gauge? Edited December 10, 2020 by Stringfingerling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neils WRX Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 22 hours ago, rembrow said: As has been said, the import duty on scale model railway products is likely to be zero, the greater problem for retailers is the current method of UK retailer getting product from Heljan in Denmark, as Heljan have their distribution base in Denmark. While Denmark and UK were both in the EU and in 2020 for the UK transition arrangements, it was relatively straightforward as UK acquirers of goods from the EU, made their acquisition declaration via their VAT returns, and unless they were high value acquirers, they only had to declare the value of acquisitions within the tax period. However from January, UK retailers buying from Heljan in Denmark will have to import the consignment, which is likely to require a Customs import entry, this is still required for imports even where the import duty is zero. Retailers can get Heljan products from Gaugemaster, however according to my local retailer, Gaugemaster cannot supply new to market products for several weeks, so if the retailer wants to market new product on release, they have to buy from Heljan. Whether Heljan will look to set up a UK distribution, as Accurascale have done, we shall have to see. I've brought direct from Heljan (Limited Edition Danish MX diesel) they were quite happy to post direct to me. Postage was no more than I'd pay purchasing it from a shop abroad. I just paid direct to their bank account. Stay safe, Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
61661 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 08/12/2020 at 20:25, Gwiwer said: Could this be linked to the distribution of certain Heljan originals via the EFE Rail brand? In other words channeled through the Bachmann supply chain? Put simply. No. Not connected in any way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Stringfingerling said: Any news of the GWR Collett Goods for O gauge? A quick skim down when the threads for recent locos were started has them all at over 2 years and often is a while before CADs are finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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