RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, keefer said: Just wondering how they ended up there, as I thought the branded stock was for internal ScR services. There were of course NE-SW/Cross-Country workings from Scotland but I'd have thought these would have their own stock allocation. Maybe @Flood can provide some info? The Edinburgh/Glasgow to Harwich boat train “The European” used to chuck out Scotrail branded stock on occasion. Andi 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SouthernBlue80s Posted December 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) At Kings Cross Can anyone Identify the 40? Edited December 19, 2020 by SouthernBlue80s 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 But what about the vehicle behind the 31? Is that one of those steam heating vans that turned up at the buffers from time to time? Looks a bit short for a CCT. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nigb55009 Posted December 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2020 The 40 has 028 written in the dirt on the bottom of the left hand nose door. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, nigb55009 said: The 40 has 028 written in the dirt on the bottom of the left hand nose door. Good spot! The rust pattern on the top of the nose doors, and the slightly unmatched position of the electrification flashes match 40028. cheers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, nigb55009 said: The 40 has 028 written in the dirt on the bottom of the left hand nose door. I have never noticed that! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 Found another shot of 40028 at Kings Cross 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 19 hours ago, keefer said: Just wondering how they ended up there, as I thought the branded stock was for internal ScR services. There were of course NE-SW/Cross-Country workings from Scotland but I'd have thought these would have their own stock allocation. Maybe @Flood can provide some info? The Mk2a brake second would appear to be 9436, based at Craigentinny in 1985. The Mk2c is one of those after 5555 as it has roevac vents. All the Scottish Mk2c TSOTs were based at Inverness so the only other candidate is 5574 which was also at Craigentinny. This probably should have been a cross-country allocated coach but in 1984/85 the Scottish Mk2e TSOs received Inter-City ScotRail so perhaps someone was a bit over zealous with the branding of this coach. As for the service I was initially totally stumped. The stock fits the Bristol to Glasgow/Edinburgh sleeper day coaches which were booked off St. Phillip's Marsh at 17.15 to arrive Malago Vale at 17.35 running ECS. From the photo this working appears to have been routed via Temple Meads station so it could be turned. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, eastwestdivide said: But what about the vehicle behind the 31? Is that one of those steam heating vans that turned up at the buffers from time to time? Looks a bit short for a CCT. I think you're right. Given the flat sides and that obvious square recessed part it looks likely to be this design. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted December 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2020 Thanks for the info and explanation Flood, much appreciated. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dagworth said: The Edinburgh/Glasgow to Harwich boat train “The European” used to chuck out Scotrail branded stock on occasion. Andi It was allocated Polmadie stock, working turn about with the Plymouth and Poole services. Dundee - Poole Poole - Glasgow Glasgow - Plymouth Plymouth - Aberdeen Aberdeen - Plymouth Plymouth - Glasgow Glasgow - Poole Poole - Edinburgh Edinburgh - Penzance Penzance - Glasgow Glasgow - Harwich Harwich - Edinburgh ECS to Dundee or Glasgow - Penzance Penzance - Edinburgh Edinburgh - Harwich Harwich - Glasgow Edited December 16, 2020 by Flood Added a comma! 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted December 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2020 That 31 should be identifiable. It's a 31/0 because it is red spot multi, but the centre doors have been replaced by a plain panel with foot steps. There were only 10 left in 1979, 005 and 019 had a white roof around that time, leaves 2/3/4/6/8/13/15/17. Be damned if I can find a pic though..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Davexoc said: That 31 should be identifiable. It's a 31/0 because it is red spot multi, but the centre doors have been replaced by a plain panel with foot steps. There were only 10 left in 1979, 005 and 019 had a white roof around that time, leaves 2/3/4/6/8/13/15/17. Be damned if I can find a pic though..... It would be good to know which one. Here is another 31 at Kings Cross. No headcode box but blue star 1982/83 (It is nice to put a few numbers to locos) 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SouthernBlue80s Posted December 17, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Memories of Stratford Mid afternoon on a Saturday I would get off the tube at Stratford station and make my way down that long damp, slightly frightening foot tunnel under the tracks and Surface at the edge of the works. (Does anyone remember that tunnel, did anyone ever take a picture of it) The rest of London seemed to watching football, in the pub or shopping. Stratford had a huge deserted feel to it, with the sound of the odd loco ticking over as a backdrop. The line of 31s that greeted you Something green and exotic caught my eye. Edited December 19, 2020 by SouthernBlue80s 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted December 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, SouthernBlue80s said: Memories of Stratford. Mid afternoon on a Saturday I would get off the tube at Stratford station and make my way down that long damp, slightly frightening foot tunnel under the tracks and Surface at the edge of the works. (Does anyone remember that tunnel, did anyone ever take a picture of it) I remember it! As a teenager, a couple of mates and me got relieved of most of our money in that tunnel by some of the East End’s finest one Sunday morning at the start of a London depot bunking day out. It apparently didn’t bother us too much as we carried on to Cricklewood, Willesden and Old Oak Common before going home. I don’t remember much else about the day, only that 47317 was on our train into Paddington. Edited December 17, 2020 by Western Aviator 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Yes, I remember it too. A schoolfriend of mine got a job as a driver there. The there were the Open Days too. Great times. Edited December 17, 2020 by BernardTPM 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted December 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2020 I knew about the ex-cl.15 ETH heating units but was intrigued by 968009 next to it. I've seen ex-cl.24 steam heating units before but they were normal 'skinhead' 24s. Not only is 009 a cl.24/1 (with headcode boxes) but it is an ETH unit too (I'd always thought ETH ones were either cl.15 or 31). https://www.derbysulzers.com/24142.html Great pic anyway! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Thanks Keefer. From that link you posted above. The 24 was at Stratford between October and November 1982. So that dates this visit. My only other picture of it below (Not the best) 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SouthernBlue80s Posted December 17, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Canton Footbridge Cardiff Canton 1982. The long gone footbridge everyone was familiar with. A blurry shot with 45037 The familiar view from the bridge. Inside the shed Edited December 19, 2020 by SouthernBlue80s 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 As is often the case with these old photos the background details are often interesting. I like the pile of brake blocks at Stratford beside 25214 for example. Thanks for sharing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted December 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2020 Another interesting detail there, the presence of a red blank on the headcode blind. There was a pic previously on RMWeb showing this on a cl.50 I think. What's strange about this is that red blinds were only ever used/authorised on the SR (and only on the SR 2-character blinds), so why they were present on 4-character blinds is a mystery, unless there was a plan/experiment to use them. 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, keefer said: Another interesting detail there, the presence of a red blank on the headcode blind. There was a pic previously on RMWeb showing this on a cl.50 I think. What's strange about this is that red blinds were only ever used/authorised on the SR (and only on the SR 2-character blinds), so why they were present on 4-character blinds is a mystery, unless there was a plan/experiment to use them. Class 24s were allocated to the Southern Region between 1959 and 1962. Certainly to be found at Faversham shed 73E - right at the end of its life. Hither Green definitely had an allocation. So that probably explains it. Edited December 17, 2020 by SouthernBlue80s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Rivercider said: As is often the case with these old photos the background details are often interesting. I like the pile of brake blocks at Stratford beside 25214 for example. Thanks for sharing Agree. Because my scanner is rubbish. I am using my camera phone to take pictures of the original prints. Which means we can zoom in and a lot of that every day detail which is tiny in the originals we can now see. That every day stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) One final one from Stratford. Edited December 18, 2020 by SouthernBlue80s 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Great work I look forward to seeing more 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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