Poor Old Bruce Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) Basingstoke (I don't know if it had any subtitle or not), LSWR, 24 July 1987 Edit: @4069 tells us it used to be Basingstoke West and some time in 1988 Edited June 28, 2021 by Poor Old Bruce 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 That Blazingsmoke box would have been decommissioned on 20.11.1966, when the new panel box opened. It is always nice to see redundant sound structures finding new uses, as is apparent here. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Any idea why there's a big 4 on the brickwork, and a 3 on the adjacent relay room? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 That might be blindingly obvious if we knew what 1 & 2 were on ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 4069 Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2021 That's Basingstoke West, which became Basingstoke B in 1956, and closed in 1966. The 3 and 4 probably mark mileages (48 m 3c and 48m 4c): most of the Southern has markers for each chain, if you know where to look. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 Looking at the distances between them, and the 5 on the next structure, I suspect it might simply be car lengths for the adjacent carriage siding? All long gone now, as are most of the buildings behind - now a bunch of blocks of flats... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Well, there's only 2&1/2'' difference between a chain and a Mk1 over coupled gangways so the jury will probably have to remain out over this ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Another one that should have some sort of suffix, a GWR box seen at Reading in 1988. Edit: Response after just a few minutes from @Mike_Walker that it's Reading Middle If that's supposed to be a fire escape ladder at the left hand end, it's a mighty big step at the bottom! Edited June 28, 2021 by Poor Old Bruce 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted June 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2021 Reading Middle. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted June 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Poor Old Bruce said: If that's supposed to be a fire escape ladder at the left hand end, it's a mighty big step at the bottom! If your signal box is on fire, you won't care about that mighty big step! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Poor Old Bruce said: Another one that should have some sort of suffix, a GWR box seen at Reading in 1988. Edit: Response after just a few minutes from @Mike_Walker that it's Reading Middle If that's supposed to be a fire escape ladder at the left hand end, it's a mighty big step at the bottom! If you went hand-over-hand down the last few rungs, there'd only be a foot or two left to drop. It was presumably made that way to stop would-be intruders climbing up it. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Poor Old Bruce said: If that's supposed to be a fire escape ladder at the left hand end, it's a mighty big step at the bottom! I thought it was wooden signalboxes with one wooden staircase that had the Health & Safety lot up in arms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted June 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2021 42 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: I thought it was wooden signalboxes with one wooden staircase that had the Health & Safety lot up in arms. Yes, that makes sense, but I don't think that would be the only reason. Reading Middle is quite a tall box, so if a fire breaks out in the internal staircase, then the signalman would need a way of safely getting out. I wouldn't fancy jumping from that height! Can't find the pictures at the moment but I'm sure they are on this thread somewhere, the ex LNWR boxes at Stockport are similar construction (brick bases) and I think some of them have vertical fire escapes at the opposite end to the wooden stairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: I thought it was wooden signalboxes with one wooden staircase that had the Health & Safety lot up in arms. Though that one presumably had an internal, boxed-in wooden staircase, which is potentially more hazardous. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Two anonymous Southern boxes I'm almost sure about, from 1988 (it was almost half a lifetime ago!). Dorking, (Edit: Not Dorking but Gomshall, thanks to Oldddudders et al) on the SE&CR route between Redhill and Guildford, but not an SE&CR design and Guildford. (Edit: Wrong again, actually South Croydon Junction. Thank you @4069) Edited June 30, 2021 by Poor Old Bruce Correction 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) I'm afraid Dorking is actually Gomshall, with Bill McAlister's caravan park in the background. Gomshall worked/works with Betchworth over that section. EDIT: The box opened on 26.10.41, its predecessor having been a Luftwaffe victim. Edited June 29, 2021 by Oldddudders 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: I'm afraid Dorking is actually Gomshall, with ....... .... a pair of London Country RFs lurking in the background. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Poor Old Bruce said: Two anonymous Southern boxes I'm almost sure about, from 1988 (it was almost half a lifetime ago!). Dorking, on the SE&CR route between Redhill and Guildford, but not an SE&CR design Gomshall is an ARP box, built in the 1940's, referenced in this link. http://www.pillbox-study-group.org.uk/other-wwii-defensive-structures/arp-sgnal-box/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 Two ARP style railway buildings are still standing at either end of Putney Bridge Station on the LUL District line. I believe the one nearest to the river was for use against any invading forces while the other one was for signalling. I will try to photograph both of them in next few days to put on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 4069 Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 I think "Guildford" is actually South Croydon Junction, which was operational from 1953 to 1984. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 4069 said: I think "Guildford" is actually South Croydon Junction, which was operational from 1953 to 1984. Absolutely correct. EDIT : And of course, Guildford never had a 'glasshouse', going straight from the LSWR AB boxes to the new panel in April 1966. Edited June 29, 2021 by Oldddudders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2251 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 28/06/2021 at 09:34, Poor Old Bruce said: Another one that should have some sort of suffix, a GWR box seen at Reading in 1988. Edit: Response after just a few minutes from @Mike_Walker that it's Reading Middle If that's supposed to be a fire escape ladder at the left hand end, it's a mighty big step at the bottom! Is it not Reading Good Lines West rather than Reading Middle? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 Yes, it is Reading Goods Lines West. Forgot about that one! Apologies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 21 hours ago, 4069 said: I think "Guildford" is actually South Croydon Junction, which was operational from 1953 to 1984. 21 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Absolutely correct. EDIT : And of course, Guildford never had a 'glasshouse', going straight from the LSWR AB boxes to the new panel in April 1966. Thanks guys, I had guessed Guildford because previous photos had been in that area. The following photo, however, was North Pole Jct so really could have been anywhere in between. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Two with name boards in situ! On the SE&CR Guildford to Reading line, seen in 1988. Aldershot and Ash Vale Junction 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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