9402 Fredrick Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Olivia's Trains seems to have some of the coaches in stock, may have to order them from there since the other shops that have any in stock can't currently ship to the USA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLPG Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) A photo from the Whitby & Scarborough Railway Facebook page. I think someone might have suggested you would not have seen these in the NE. Here you have one. Albeit used as a camping coach. 1933 in Stainton Dale. Edited January 18, 2021 by DLPG 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2021 Now there's an idea, a camping coach, any one of the six wheelers and even one of the four wheelers depending on period. (Though perhaps not the full brakes.) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLPG Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 There were 10 camping coaches introduced in the NE/ Yorkshire region in July 1933. They were the standard compartment coaches and slightly modified internally to create bedrooms, living room and kitchen. I wish I could get hold of one for my garden. Would make a great little pub. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, 9402 Fredrick said: Olivia's Trains seems to have some of the coaches in stock, may have to order them from there since the other shops that have any in stock can't currently ship to the USA. Don't panic buy. Most of the retailers haven't got them yet. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLPG Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, DLPG said: There were 10 camping coaches introduced in the NE/ Yorkshire region in July 1933. They were the standard compartment coaches and slightly modified internally to create bedrooms, living room and kitchen. I wish I could get hold of one for my garden. Would make a great little pub. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Don't panic buy. Most of the retailers haven't got them yet. Jason The only other online retailers thay haven't are also the only ones able to ship outside of the UK or EU, so I have to wait a bit longer, and TMC said they aren't getting any of theirs till round Feburary/March. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 In case it's of use to anyone The Hobby Shop, Faversham is now listing GNR, LNER and BR coaches https://hobb-e-mail.com/jan213-1235-c.asp Stu 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: Received my 4 wheel one from Derails - answer to either of the above seems to be no; the reed swith triggers twice as the vehicle passes under the magnet held above it. Is that holding the magnet along the body of the coach? If so both poles are switching, try holding it vertically or at 90° to the body so just one end is over the coach. Then only one pole should activate the Reed switch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2021 Invoice now received for all of the GWR versions and just two of the LB&SCR versions, hopefully for delivery tomorrow. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 hours ago, PaulRhB said: Is that holding the magnet along the body of the coach? If so both poles are switching, try holding it vertically or at 90° to the body so just one end is over the coach. Then only one pole should activate the Reed switch. Vertically above works with the reed switching once. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 My LNER 4 wheel brake coach from Derails cleared house quarantine this morning and looks good. An excellent rendition of teak; the lining is neat and the fact that it does not follow the panelling in not too obvious from normal viewing distance. I have assembled kits of several GN coaches from 3D, Mousa etc and an ECJS clerestory dining car. They are good models of authentic prototypes, but take me a long time to build and my painting and lining is clumsy and tar-brush compared with Hornby. I have watched several videos of the 6 wheelers but none have really tested their running and track-holding ability on complex trackwork. Has anybody experience of this yet? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2021 I have a couple of auto trailers fitted with a cheapo Chinese Amazon version of this type of lighting, hiding the batteries in the guard's compartment, and while the lights are fine, the magnetic switching is a bit wobbly and If I do any more of these I'll buy the separately availably Hornby fittings. The roofs come off the auto trailers easily enough and the lighting can be activated for a running session simply by inserting the battery into the holder, and removed at the end of the session. Battery life is pretty good, and the lights will run at reasonable brightness for about 30 hours (I sacrificed a battery to experiment), sufficient for a month or two's running session (I don't use the lights for all of them) on an almost daily basis. The lights are too bright, as most model railway lighting is, probably because it is designed to be visible in ambient lit room light and under layout lighting. Steam age filament bulbs were pathetically feeble, probably not much of an improvement on oil lighting, and not visible in normal daytime lighting conditions; you'd struggle to see them at night in brightly lit stations. I have dealt with this by painting over the leds with cream acrylic paint, one coat is sufficient and I'm happy with the overall effect. Jenny Kirks' and Phil Parkers' vids show that the Hornby lighting is much more acceptable in this respect than the rather dazzilng Hatton's version. I don't do actual night running, as there is as yet no system of providing lit loco and tail lamps that can be removed at terminuses to go on the other end of the loco/train, but lighting is very effective at suggesting dusk, heavy rain or a dull winter day, the more so on a layout set in the South Wales Valleys where it's like being in a badly lit grey room when the cloud is low on the mountainsides. You can almost hear the male voice choir practicisng Sanctaidd in the background, us Welsh loves a bit of gloom and misery, we does, aye... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Jenny Kirks' and Phil Parkers' vids show that the Hornby lighting is much more acceptable in this respect than the rather dazzilng Hatton's version. Hattons have already said the brilliance is going to be reduced on the production versions. Those seen so far are the EP’s. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2021 21 hours ago, adb968008 said: Maybe someday these coaches might appear as a circus train, including a caboose, and elephant in the room and a giraffe car. There could be the driver as the invisble man, and room for those 100 HO painted figures for £3,99 on ebay, whom all seem to wear green and orange suits and hats, that no one in the real world ever wears. You haven't seen any of Michael Portillo's programmes, then… 1 3 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted January 19, 2021 Administrators Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, The Johnster said: Jenny Kirks' and Phil Parkers' vids show that the Hornby lighting is much more acceptable in this respect than the rather dazzilng Hatton's version. As I said in my video on the Hattons coaches, this is being revised for production models - that's why I didn't demo it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, The Johnster said: I have a couple of auto trailers fitted with a cheapo Chinese Amazon version of this type of lighting, hiding the batteries in the guard's compartment, and while the lights are fine, the magnetic switching is a bit wobbly and If I do any more of these I'll buy the separately availably Hornby fittings. You might also want to look at Layouts4U who sell magnetically activated lighting (using latching reed switches) for £6.50 a throw which I think is a bit less than the Hornby offering (plus 50p for a magnet to work it, or £1.50 if you want the magnet on a stick). Or you can buy the parts individually if you want. I've had one for a while and found it very reliable. I'm not saying the Hornby system is inspired by these, but they do look quite similar. (Usual disclaimer: no connection but a satisfied customer of theirs...) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'm going to leave my passenegrs in the dark, since none of them have paid to travel. 2 1 2 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Nile said: I'm going to leave my passenegrs in the dark, since none of them have paid to travel. Well, I hope they won't take any liberties: https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-the-kiss-in-the-tunnel-1899-online. That's definitely a generic compartment interior! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 22 hours ago, Ravenser said: Since steampunk is Victorian, that could be another angle for the tooling ultimately, though probably 6 wheelers. How about a train pack for Sherlock Holmes' special in pursuit of Moriarty.... The GC's Barnum stock was actually developed from a circus train - hence the name... N.B. Mike Pett does 4mm figures for Sherlock Holmes, Doctor Watson and Professor Moriarty. Very good too. The professor also makes for a very good undertaker, doffing his top hat ! Ray 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbos Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 18/01/2021 at 14:44, Caledonian said: I will cheerfully confess that I have taken one of the new Hornby LSWR brakes and repainted and lettered it as a Caledonian Railway Diagram 45 brake. The side windows had to go and there are other minor imperfections but apart from the fact that its overscale by a couple of millimetres its a very easy bodge. I’m guessing that’s a typo for the Diagram number as that would be a bit more than a ‘very easy bodge’ turning a 24’ 4 wheel Full Brake into a 48’ bogied 6-compartment Brake Third! The Hornby 4 wheel Full Brake is a passable representation of a Caledonian Railway Diagram 4 Passenger Brake Van, the LNWR version could be a good choice for a full passenger livery version going by the comments on the colour shades Hornby appear to have chosen. Brian. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, turbos said: I’m guessing that’s a typo for the Diagram number as that would be a bit more than a ‘very easy bodge’ turning a 24’ 4 wheel Full Brake into a 48’ bogied 6-compartment Brake Third! The Hornby 4 wheel Full Brake is a passable representation of a Caledonian Railway Diagram 4 Passenger Brake Van, the LNWR version could be a good choice for a full passenger livery version going by the comments on the colour shades Hornby appear to have chosen. Brian. He was referring to goods brakes. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Well, I hope they won't take any liberties: https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-the-kiss-in-the-tunnel-1899-online. That's definitely a generic compartment interior! The train at the start of the film had mis-matched coaches, both in style and roof profile. So a mix of Hornby & Hattons coaches would not be unprototypical. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 I will be buying the unlit coaches as I am going to repaint them to go with my Oxford rail gun and any light would not be visible outside. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbos Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: He was referring to goods brakes. I see, to much thread drift to keep up with it all. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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